What Really is ‘New Fire’ Fuel? (Bob Greenyer)

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What really is ‘New Fire’ Fuel?

Using powerful new online Parkhomov nuclear reaction database to help explain real empirical data and guide potentially viable experimental choices.

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E-Cat is ‘Not a Miracle’

I found an exchange between Gerard McEk and Andrea Rossi on the subject of the E-Cat as a quite interesting and thought provoking.

Gerard wrote:

Wouldn’t you agree that, assuming that people are indeed the cause of the change in climate by burning fossile fuel, the Ecat IS the short term solution?
If you have earned enough money, in the coming years, please give the design and know-how to humanity, so it can be developed much more quickly than you and your team can do, just to save the world!

Andrea Rossi

Gerard McEk:
Thank you for your suggestion.
The global warming has much more complex origins and the Ecat is not a miraculous device.
It will be useful, for sure.
Warm Regards

Gerard McEk

Dear Andrea,
I do not understand why you are saying that the Ecat is not a miracle. If it does do what you have been showing, then it is a miracle, at least in the eyes of 95% of the nuclear physists. Can you explain this, please?Andrea Rossi

Gerard McEk:
The Ecat is not a miracle, it is the product of a team that is working very, very hard that soon will enter the market.
Warm Regards,


From Rossi’s point of view, I think I can understand why he considers it not to be miraculous, and from Gerard’s point of view, I can see why he thinks it is.

Rossi has been working with the E-Cat so closely and for so long that I would think for him it is a practical engineering project that has commercial applications. For the rest of us, it’s something that could well seem entirely miraculous. It reminds me of Arthur C. Clarke’s famous adage: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.

From one perspective we live in an age of miracles. To someone living just 200 years ago, technologies that are commonplace now, such as electricity, transportation, aviation, telecommunications, computing, Internet, space travel, medicine, etc. would be unbelievable. Yet here they are, and most of the time we take them for granted.

From another perspective, these developments have been produced by people like Rossi, inventors and engineers who have had the intuition or inspiration to pursue an idea to make progress in a certain field, and with practical application and hard work have brought something new into reality. The inventors and discoverers often won’t consider themselves to be miracle workers, they simply are pursuing a practical goal.

But for people like me, I think there is something miraculous and awe-inspiring about it all.

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Brian Ahern, NASA and the First ‘Cold Fusion’ Patent Granted (1993 MIT/Air Force)

The following post has been submitted by Greg Goble
Is Nanofusion another name for LENR? It seems nanoparticles as fuel is integral to Leonardo Corp. LENR energy technology. It is still up-in-the-air as to whether or not fusion takes place in the low energy nuclear reactive environment, yet consider the term nanofusion.
If occasionally the energies released from transmutation events becomes localized into a nano location where two monoatomic isotopes of hydrogen find themselves and fusion between the two occurs, then nanofusion might just be the best descriptive name, rather than cold fusion. (While pondering this it’s good to keep in mind that there are two common fusion reactions in deuterium. One gives off neutrons while the other one doesn’t.) Read this NASA cold fusion experiment with heat-positive results, December 1989, NASA Technical Memorandum 102430, by Gustave Fralick of the NASA 2018 GRC AEC LENR team: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19900008108.pdf
In 2003, a NASA LENR report chose to categorize the work of Brian Ahern as nanofusion instead of LENR. (See pages 44 – 48 ‘Low Energy Nuclear Reaction’. See pages 48 – 50 ‘Nanofusion’.
Inventor Brian Ahern has two LENR patents.
The first one was the first LENR patent granted by the U.S. patent office, way back in 1995. It is assigned to MIT and the U.S. government (Air Force) . It was published in 1993; only a few years after the initial cold fusion flurry of 1989 had settled down. Developed by and granted to MIT and the Air Force in spite of the fact that MIT played a major role in discrediting cold fusion research. (by falsifying data in order to show negative results, see Eugene F. Mallove ‘MIT and Cold Fusion: A Special Report’ in Further Reading)
The second LENR patent of Mr. Ahern claims the first as priority and is an LENR patent that uses nanoparticles. (In my opinion nanofusion is just another name for LENR and should be categorized as such.) As a daughter patent of the prior patent, which the government retains rights to, Mr. Ahern most likely needs to hold a licensing agreement for this LENR technology (permission) from the U.S. government (DOD Air Force) in order to commercialize it.
NASA / CR-2003-212169 “Advanced Energetics for Aeronautical Applications”
David S. Alexander, MSE Technology Applications, Inc., Butte, Montana
3.1.5 Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Induced Deuterium Fusion in Palladium The first-discovered form of solid-state fusion was that achieved by electrochemically splitting heavy water in order to cause the deuterium to absorb into pieces of palladium metal. When this experiment is conducted according to procedures that have resulted from the work of many researchers since 1989, it is reproducible.
3.1.6 Nanofusion Dr. Brian Ahern, whose background is physics and materials science, claims his nanofusion concept will take advantage of the demonstrated fact that nanosize particles (containing approximately 1,000 to 3,000 atoms) have different chemical and physical properties than bulk-size pieces of the same material. One reason Dr. Ahern gives for this is explained as given below.
  1. When a particle of a substance consists of 1,000 to 3,000 atoms in a cluster, there is a higher fraction of surface atoms than for atoms in a bulk piece of the same material.
  2. Military research (suggested by the nuclear physicist Enrico Fermi), which had been classified in 1954, but was later declassified, demonstrated that if a cluster of atoms in the 1,000 to 3,000 size range was given an impulse of energy (e.g., as heat) and if a significant number of these atoms have a nonlinear coupling to the rest (e.g., the coupling of surface atoms to interior atoms), the energy will not be shared uniformly among all the atoms in the cluster but will localize on a very small number of these atoms.
  3. Thus, a few atoms in the cluster will rapidly acquire a vibrational energy far above what they would have if they were in thermal equilibrium with their neighboring atoms.
  4. This “energy localization” explains why clusters in this size range are particularly good catalysts for accelerating chemical reactions.
  5. If the cluster is palladium saturated with deuterium, Dr. Ahern claims the localized energy effect will enable a significant number of the deuterons to undergo a nuclear fusion reaction, thereby releasing a high amount of energy.
The following 2010 LENR patent, assigned to Brian Ahern, claims the priority LENR patent from 1993, which has been granted and is assigned to MIT and the U.S. Air Force.
“Amplification of energetic reactions”
US 20110233061 A1 – Assignee – Brian S. Ahern
Publication date: Sep 29, 2011- Priority date: Mar 29, 2010
Methods and apparatus for energy production through the amplification of energetic reactions. A method includes amplifying an energy release from a dispersion of nanoparticles containing a concentration of hydrogen/deuterium nuclei, the nanoparticles suspended in a dielectric medium in a presence of hydrogen/deuterium gas, wherein an energy input is provided by high voltage pulses between two electrodes embedded in the dispersion of nanoparticles.
Priority patent
1993 Air Force LENR Patent “Method of maximizing anharmonic oscillations in deuterated alloys” US5411654A Filed: Jul. 2, 1993 GRANT issued: Feb. 5, 1995 – Inventors: Brian S. Ahern, Keith H. Johnson, Harry R. Clark Jr. – Assignee: Hydroelectron Ventures Inc, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, US Air Force – This invention was made with U.S. Government support under contract No. F19628-90-C-0002, awarded by the Air Force. The Government has certain rights in this invention. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5411654A
Further Reading:
“MIT and Cold Fusion: A Special Report”
Introduction by Dr. Eugene F. Mallove
(MIT Class of 1969, Aero/Astro Engineering, SB 1969, SM 1970)
Editor-in-Chief, Infinite Energy Magazine
President, New Energy Foundation, Inc.
In fact, the story of cold fusion’s reception at MIT is a story of egregious scientific fraud and the coverup of scientific fraud and other misconduct—not by Fleischmann and Pons, as is occasionally alleged—but by researchers who in 1989 aimed to dismiss cold fusion as quickly as possible and who have received hundreds of millions of DOE research dollars since then for their hot fusion research. The cover-up of fraud, sad to say, reaches the highest levels at MIT and includes the current MIT President,Charles M. Vest. Remarkably, President Vest has recently been named by U.S. Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham to head the Task Force on the Future of Science  Programs at the Department of Energy. – end quotes
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Rossi’s Industrial E-Cat Strategy

This week’s revelations by Andrea Rossi about Leonardo Corporation’s business plan and technical strategy has been one of the most surprising things I have learned since I started following the progress of Rossi’s E-Cat.

I was not terribly surprised to learn that Rossi was planning to sell heat, rather than plants, because this is something he has talked about on and off over the years. The thing that took me off guard was the fact that in Rossi’s plan the E-Cat plants are to be controlled directly from Leonardo Corp’s headquarters. I just hadn’t even considered that as a possibility.

However, thinking about it, there are plenty of remote control application in the world, and knowing Rossi’s business philosophy, business goals and his desire for protection and control of his IP, this strategy – assuming it can work technologically – fits with his outlook.

There has been a lot of discussion on the implications of this strategy, and I have been thinking about it quite a bit, and some of my thoughts are outlined below.

Benefits for Leonardo:

  • The control secrets are off-site, providing more IP protection and confidence to implement E-Cat technology into the world.
  • Leonardo is able to directly monitor the performance of the E-Cat plants at multiple plants from one location, helpful for data collection and troubleshooting especially in the early days of sales and installations

Risks for Leonardo

  • In addition to providing an unprecedented energy source, the business plan is unusual. Industries may be suspicious about the secrecy and be wary of participating.
  • There will be significant costs required to set up, maintain and protect the telecommunications systems involved.
  • Using the internet to deliver the control signals to the e-cats adds another layer of complexity to the E-Cat’s operations. Internet connectivity may be problematic at times and Leonardo would likely be a target for hackers trying to steal secrets, or trying to disrupt their operations.
  • The more plants that are installed, the more complex the remote control and monitoring becomes. If Leonardo is knocked offline completely, then E-Cat plants in all locations will cease to work, affecting customers financially and operationally, and Leonardo loses revenues until resolved.

Benefits for Customers

  • Cost savings on heat for their industrial processes.
  • Reduction in carbon emissions.
  • No need for upfront investment in an unknown technology.
  • If it doesn’t work, or if does not work well, no loss to the customer. No need for training staff to run the E-Cat operations.

Risks for Customers

  • With E-Cat power supply dependent on internet connectivity, cost savings are dependent upon stable internet communications with Leonardo. If internet connectivity is unreliable, E-Cat benefits will be reduced.
  • There will be a need to continue to provide and maintain a backup energy source.
  • Entering into a 5-year contract could lock in higher costs if E-Cat costs go down as the technology improves over time.

My interest in the E-Cat and LENR in general has always been because of the practical benefits it can potentially provide. I think it is a good sign that Andrea Rossi is now working on an implementation plan, because I think the sooner that LENR can be put to work in the real world, the better.  Whether Rossi’s plan will be successful still remains to be seen. Even he has stated that it may not be the long term strategy:


Dr Andrea Rossi:
Your strategy to maintain the control system centralized in your HQ is one of the most genial solution you could think about.

Andrea Rossi

It has resolved the reverse engineering issue and allows us to maintain a direct observation of the behavior of all our Ecats. Surely this will be our strategy for the first “pioneers” years. Eventually, we will see.
Warm Regards,





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The Chiral Particle Radiation Hydrodynamics Effect (Axil Axil)

The following post has been submitted by Axil Axil

The flow of EMF radiation through plasma will separate particles based on their chirality. Since chiral particles migrate at different speeds when exposed to emf radiation, chiral particles will collect into separate regions and then further separate by their charge. This difference in how particles react to deal with photon momentum imparted by emf radiation and the then its subsequent absorption and later release of that energy is called chiral radiation hydrodynamics.

For the theory of how EMF radiation can separate chiral particles, see


Lateral optical force on chiral particles near a surface

In the SAFIRE experiment, multiple layers of chiral particles form. The emf emitted by the stimulating current flow is retarded and stored in each double layer. This storage mechanism is analogous to the way a wall comprised of many layers will retard a large wave.

The speed of light in that current flow is greatly slowed in response to the way hydrogen stores and releases that energy at its intrinsic natural resonance. This storage of this energy is amplified in each double layer as the emf energy moves to the outermost double layer until the outermost layer receives and stores an energy balance sufficient to generate hydrogen fusion that produces helium 3. This is the method in which the Radiation implosion based Teller–Ulam design for the hydrogen bomb works.


Radiation implosion

Tritium is not produced in this fusion reaction since the outermost double layer in which the fusion occurs is comprised of left handed chiral particles. Chiral particle separation insures that no radiation is generated by this fusion reaction.

The LENR reaction in SAFIRE

When the tungsten probe is inserted into a double layer, the Surface Plasmon Polaritons on the surface of the tungsten is excited through the release of the energy stored in the double layer. This high level of stored energy is converted into a polariton petal condensate as the density of polaritons grows large. The condensate generated by the LENR reaction and the chiral separation of particles in the double layer blocks all nuclear level radiation produced by the LENR reaction.

Androcles Reactor Setup Photos (Alan Smith)

These photos were posted in the previous Androcles thread by Alan Smith.

Here’s some pictures of the Androcles reactor set-up. A Petri dish for LENR, and more a-building.



And ‘under construction’ reactors.


And again..


And a mica-window pancake Geiger detector (with LFH’s design of front shield to protect that fragile mica bubble).


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Leonardo to Begin Commercialization by Selling Heat, not E-Cat Plants: Q & A With Andrea Rossi

Below is a Q & A exchange conducted today via email with Andrea Rossi regarding his plans for the commercial roll-out of industrial E-Cats.

1. Can you explain why you have decided now to announce that you are taking orders for the industrial E-Cat plants?

Because if we make plants we need clients.

2. You have been developing industrial E-Cat products for many years now. However, first generation E-Cat plants, like the one you operated during the 1-year test in Doral, never went into mass production. What is different with the current generation of E-Cat?

The former Ecats were not ready to be operated from clients.

3. For someone hearing about the E-Cat for the first time, and interested as a possible customer, what information would you like to tell them about your product?

The Customer has just to know how much energy we deliver, in which form and at what price, plus the information that will be contained in the safety instructions. We will make the installation

4. What size (in power rating) plants are you taking orders for?

1 MW

5. How much physical space would a 1 MW E-Cat plant occupy?

15′ x 9′ x 9′

6. If someone orders a plant today when can they expect to be able to receive it?

End 2018/2019 first quarter

7. Comparing an E-Cat plant to a typical natural gas heating system of the same power rating, about how much cheaper would it be to operate over one year?


8. You have mentioned recently for example that industrial plants could be installed in facilities like factories, hospitals and greenhouses which need heat. What would be your definition of an industrial application for an E-Cat?

An application wherein the heat is used by an industry for any purpose

9. What would be the approximate cost of a 1MW plant if it were ordered today?

We will sell heat, not plants

10. Is your business model now to only sell heat, or will you sell plants to customers in the future?

It will depend on the evolution of the situation

11. At the factories where you sell heat, will Leonardo personnel operate the plants, or will employees of the local company operate them?

The plant will be operated in remote from our headquarter, through the cloud with dedicated servers. The Client will not have any operation to do inside the plant

12. When a customer makes an agreement with Leonardo, are they agreeing to pay just a monthly energy bill, or are there other up-front costs involves (such as installation fees)?

This will depend on the agreement.

13. What is the minimum length of time for a contract duration?

5 years

14. What is the guaranteed minimum COP of an E-Cat plant?


15. What is the maximum temperature or steam that an E-Cat plant can produce?

600 C

16. Who will install E-Cat plants for customers?

Leonardo Corporation

17. How will training on how to operate an E-Cat plant be done?

The expert responsible for safety of the Client will make a course on site

18. Like with any product, a typical customer will more than likely want to see a demonstration of an E-Cat plant before making a decision to purchase. When will you show your new product, and demonstrate it in operation?

When one will be in operation

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Rossi Ready to Start Accepting Orders For 1MW Plants

For people wanting to get to the head of the queue for ordering E-Cat Plants when they are ready, Andrea Rossi signaled today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that he is ready to start entering in to customer agreements to do so.

May 14, 2018 at 8:54 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Are you ready to accept orders for the industrial plants? If yes, how is possible to start a deal?
Thank you if you can answer,

Andrea Rossi
May 14, 2018 at 1:30 PM
Yes, we are open now to begin to examine requests for 1 thermal MW plants, but only from industries that use directly the heat for their production process in their factories. For this utilization we have the necessary certifications and our industrialization is scheduled to start at the end of the year. Therefore the answer is YES, but the Customers must be aware of the fact that the delivery terms could be modified. The contracts will take in consideration this fact.
Warm Regards,

A few things of note here: The output is 1 thermal MW, so it seems like that will be the minimum size. Rossi says that they will ‘examine requests’, so he might be selective about who gets the plants. It looks like to be considered you have to be a legitimate industrial customer who will use the heat in the production process — this is what the plants are certified for. The industrialization is ‘scheduled’ to start at the end of 2018, but that is not guaranteed at this point. There’s no mention of price, guaranteed COP or temperature range. There’s nothing yet on the ecat.com website yet, which is still showing data about the first generation plant, which is the low temperature model which was operated during the 1 year Doral test, but which hasn’t been on the market.

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“Cold Fusion: Hunter of the lost treasure.” (Spectrum.de Article)

Thanks to Veblin for providing a link to a new article from the German Spektrum.de website titled “Cold Fusion: Hunter of the lost treasure.”

The original German article is here: https://www.spektrum.de/news/jaeger-des-verlorenen-schatzes/1564692

A Google English translation is here:

The author, Janosch Deeg, reviews the current field of cold fusion, and contrasts it with “Hot” fusion. He interviews Hartmut Zohm, professor of physics at the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München who is working on the hot side of fusion. Zohm was a doctoral student at the Max Planck Institute for Plasma Physics (IPP) time of the Pons and Fleischmann announcement, and neither he or his colleagues there could replicate the Pons-Fleischmann effect.

On the cold side of fusion, Deeg interviews Peter Hagelstein of MIT who is a champion of the LENR effect in the academic field, and is working to understand what might be going on the phenomenon. David Nagel, a professor of computer and electrical engineering at George Washington University tells Zeeg that there are results in LENR research that can’t be explained away. Swedish physicist Hanno Essén is also interviewed, he still seems convinced that Rossi has developed a working LENR process (Essén was one of the first academics to witness an E-Cat test).

From the article:

He [Essén] is pretty sure that the E-Cat is actually producing excess heat: “Based on the measurements I participated in and the reports of other independent scientists, I would say the evidence is pretty good that Rossi can generate unusual heat.” In his opinion, there are enough other physical effects that have not yet been explained. That’s why LENR is not unique to him. He describes Rossi as a “hard-working entrepreneur with numerous skills.” Essén criticizes, however, that for the inventor rather the economic than the scientific interests were in the foreground.

I think the article is a fair and neutral review of what is going on in LENR at the moment. On the experimental side of things, from numerous published articles and reports, there very interesting results that have been reported, which point to nuclear effects happening. But I don’t think things will change too much in terms of mainstream interest until there are useful products available in the marketplace.

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New Breed of Athletic Robots (Video)

New video has been released by Boston Dynamics of some of its latest robots in action. Earlier videos from the company had shown pack-horse type robots that were designed for use by military units covering rough terrain. This latest video shows some four legged and two legged robots doing some very impressive moves.

Watching some of the moves in this video, it’s not hard to think of places these kinds of robots could be put to work, especially in environments which currently involve hard manual labor and repetitive tasks. And of course it brings up the ongoing debate about what such robots might have on the future of work and employment.

It seems like technological sophistication is just continuing to accelerate these days, and it will be interesting to see how our world will adapt.