E-Cat SKL Presentation Will Take Place in Stockholm

Today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics Sam suggested that since next year’s Super Bowl will be held in Miami, Rossi get the University of Miami involved in testing, and the announcement of the results be tied in with the Super Bowl.  But it seems that won’t be happening, as Rossi replied:
Andrea Rossi

The decisions regarding the tests have already been made and the certification Team knows how to do it.
After the end of their work we will make the presentation in Stockholm.
Warm Regards,

Stockholm makes sense since it is the Swedish capital and provides easy access for visitors. There should be suitable venues for a presentation with all the technical facilities and equipment to transmit to the world.

Rossi stated yesterday that the date of the commencement of the testing has already been determined (some time in January) and they will last “until the tests will be completed”.

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Excess Heat Production Reported in New Mizuno Replication (Hokkaido University of Science)

Jed Rothwell has posted an updated paper on LENR-CANR website which reports how Dr. S. Saito and two assistants at Hokkaido University of Science in Japan have measured excess heat in a replication of the Mizuno Nickel-Palladium experiment.


Here is a quote and image from the paper:

Figure 4 shows the results of an excess heat test. By coincidence, the total heat measured in
the air flow is about the same as input power; around 500 W. (In other words, the blue line
happens to reach the orange line.) However, as shown in the calibration, if there were no excess
heat, the blue line would be lower, at 350 W instead, so the reaction is producing about 150 W.

At 8,000 s, the heat increases abruptly, even though input power is stable. At 35,000 s heat
increases to ~510 W, above the orange line, and then falls back at 40,000 s, even though there is
no change in input power. Such perturbations never occur during stable calibrations, so the
increased power comes from a reaction, rather than input power.

Figure 4. Input and output power during an excess heat test

Paper: “Lattice Dilation of Plasma Sprayed Nickel Film Quantified by High Resolution Terahertz Imaging” (Rahman, Tanzella, Rahman, Page and Godes)

Thanks to LION for posting a link to this article by Anis Rahman, Francis Tanzella, Aunik K Rahman, Carl Page and Robert Godes, titled “Lattice Dilation of Plasma Sprayed Nickel Film Quantified by High Resolution Terahertz Imaging”.

From the Conclusion section:

A model has been proposed for explaining the increased heat energy generation from IPB-HHT experiment with the LENR tube cells. Here the fluid-like nickel lattice at higher temperatures, and under the influence of an RF electric field, is assumed to undergo a space-time crystal like non-equilibrium effect; and thus, producing increased energy via a non-radiative transition process. An in-situ monitoring of the IPB-HHT experiment has been proposed to determine the correlation between the excess energy generation period and the observed lattice dilation.




Rossi Working on Correcting ‘Weak Points’ E-Cat SKLs to Ensure ‘Long-term Reliablity’

It has been two weeks since Rossi reported success with making the E-Cat SKL self–sustain in a closed loop manner, and a reader on the JONP asked an interesting question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics regarding the first three E-Cat SKLs that Rossi says have been under test.

Rick 57
December 7, 2019 at 11:41 AM
Dear Andrea,

are the 3 Ecat SKL still running since Nov 23 in electrical SSM without any manual intervention / stop to fix or prevent potential problems ?

Andrea Rossi
December 7, 2019 at 12:38 PM
Rick 57:
We are continuing to work on them and with them, hoping to be mature for a presentation in January or February. We are finding out the weak points related to the reliability in the long term.
I am satisfied and optimist, while we are working on them, not just looking at.
Warm Regards,

So it doesn’t sound like the operation of the E-Cat SKLs has been problem-free. Rossi says they are seeing some weaknesses and working to correct them. He mentions ‘reliability in the long term’, implying that there may have developed some issues with these E-Cats after sustained operation.

I am sure it is very important to him that when the time comes for the third-party testing of the E-Cats, and especially the live presentation, that they don’t malfunction. I guess this might be the reason he has said lately that he is “working like a dog”, and has “been under strong pressure”.

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Rossi More Optimistic Now About the Domestic E-Cat Because it is ‘Much Easier to Control’

Andrea Rossi had posted recently on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that he hoped that the safety certification for domestic versions of the E-Cat SKL could be completed by April 2020, and that it was “not impossible” that domestic E-Cats could be on the market by November 2020.

This is quite a different outlook from Rossi’s projections about domestic versions of earlier iterations of the E-Cat. In the past he stated that it would take a long time for them to be certified and that industrial E-Cats would need to be operating for a long time before domestic products could be introduced.

So there’s quite a big change in the outlook. I asked a couple of questions on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about this. The first question is an adaptation of a question from John Oman here on ECW:

Frank Acland
December 4, 2019 at 10:16 AM
Dear Andrea,

You said that you hoped that certification for household SKLs will be certified by April 2020. This means that it will need to be submitted to likes of CE, UL, CSA, etc.

1. Can you say when the SKL was or will be submitted for their evaluation?
2. In the past you have said that certification for household use of your old E-Cats would take a long, long time. Why are you more optimistic for speedy certification of the SKL?

Andrea Rossi
December 6, 2019 at 8:20 AM
Frank Acland:
1 on course
2 much easier to control
Warm Regards

‘On course’ is a favorite Rossi phrase. I think it means here that the process is underway but it is quite unclear at what stage. I think it’s interesting that Rossi states that the SKL is much easier to control. It implies that earlier versions of the E-Cat were difficult to control, and perhaps that is why he has spent so much time and effort into developing the SKL.

So I think this could be considered good news for many of us who from the very beginning have been hoping for an E-Cat in our homes. However I think it’s always prudent to be realistic and not get ahead of ourselves. Politically, sociologically and economically speaking, there would be huge implications if people could simply generate the power they needed from a home device not connected to the grid. For example, utilities would be devastated by such a development and we have seen in various jurisdictions there have been moves by utilities to put barriers in the way of people wanting get off the grid, or reduce dependency on the grid through the use of solar panels on their homes.

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Neighborhood Evacuated After Man Reported Being Burned by ‘Quantum Physics Generator’

Various news outlets are reporting an incident that took place in a Columbus, Ohio neighborhood in which emergency responders and nuclear experts were dispatched to a home after a man called 911 reporting having been burned by “radio frequency burns” while operating a “quantum physics generator” in his garage.

Nuclear experts were brought to the scene following the mention of alpha waves and a particle accelerator. Radiation testing was done but nothing hazardous was found.

Here’s a  link to an article about the incident from the website of the Cincinnati Enquirer


Quote from the article:

“A 911 call Thursday led to a precautionary evacuation of an entire street in a Northwest Side neighborhood in Columbus over concerns about a possible small nuclear reactor and alpha waves reported by a resident who said he sustained burns in his garage on the device. In the end, authorities found no hazard. The man will undergo a mental-health examination and may face charges of inducing a panic.”

Jed Rothwell Reports on Status of Mizuno Replication Efforts

On the Vortex-l mailing list, Jed Rothwell has started a thread about the status of efforts to replicate Mizuno’s experiments which claimed significant excess heat in Palladium-Nickel experiments.

The full thread with Jed’s initial comments and further discussion from readers can be accessed here:


Jed writes:

Several replications of the Pd-Ni experiment are underway, but they have not been going well. Zhang reported small excess heat. It went away, came back, and now it has gone again. Others say it is not working. I asked Mizuno to comment on what the problems may be. Here is a summary (not an exact translation) of his comments and mine.

His comments:

His biggest concerns is that when he prepares the mesh and rubs Pd on to it, he then immediately puts it into the reactor, evacuates it, and begins the cycles of degassing, then heating and degassing, and D2 gas treatments. Little or no time elapses from the final stages of rubbing to putting it into the reactor. Whereas, when he prepares a mesh and then mails it, a lot of time elapses, which may allow contamination from air, or from the plastic packaging. In other words, the state of the mesh and Pd may change.

He thinks it might be a good idea to send someone an entire reactor that has produced excess heat, with the mesh installed.

He would like to remind people that some Pd is hard and does not rub unto the Ni mesh. You may need to anneal it to soften it. You have to confirm that it has coated on the Ni.

There is a replication now underway in Japan which seems to be going well. We hope we can soon upload a description and some data from it.

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Book: Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism (Ken Wheeler)

The following post has been submitted by Martin.

Ken Wheeler’s book on magnetism is worth a look at by anyone interested in understanding the
LENR phenomenon in my view. His views on science are unconventional to say the least.

Going back to the ‘greats’ of Maxwell, Tesla, and Steinmetz he revives both the consideration of both
dielectricity and the ether theory. His principle claim is that magnetism has to do with space
expansion and movement, and dielectricity has to do with counter-space (the ether), and inertia.
Electricity is the conjunction of the dielectric and magnetic and is to magnetism what dielectricity
is to mass/gravity. The image below should hopefully ring a few bells!

Obviously there are many on here with a good working knowledge of contemporary scientific
theory. I have no idea to what extent his ideas may appear crackpot to those with a good
knowledge of physics, etc., but I think that if his theory helps suggest or provoke interesting
thoughts then it doesn’t matter if it can be shown to be wrong.

His experiments with magnets and his explanation of the forces at work seemed relevant to the discussion here so I thought it worth posting here. His book can be found here:


And he does many videos on YouTube under the name Theoria Apophasis.


Rossi: Next Event to Take Place in Sweden

Here’s an answer to a straightforward question asked by a reader on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about the location of the upcoming E-Cat presentation:

Gian Luca
December 3, 2019 at 7:12 AM
Carissimo Andrea
maybe someone has already asked this question but where will the next event take place? Europe vs USA?

Andrea Rossi
December 3, 2019 at 7:44 AM
Gian Luca:
Warm Regards,

So it’s back to the country where Andrea Rossi first introduced the E-Cat QX in November of 2017. Then it was a low powered unit which required a large control box plugged into the mains in order to operate, and which Rossi said he had problems keeping cool. Over two years have passed and supposedly a lot of improvements have been made, allowing for the E-Cat to operate without any external input power.

With Sweden as a venue, maybe he can’t say at the moment, but I hope that Mats Lewan is able to participate somehow.

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More on the Verification of the E-Cat SKL

There has been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere about the revolutionary nature of the latest version of the E-Cat as claimed by Andrea Rossi.

He is saying that the E-Cat SK Leonardo is a small box, about the size of a Rubik’s Cube, which can sit and put out hundreds, if not thousands of Watts of electricity for months on end without the need for refueling or recharging.

Based on all human experience with technology to date, it does sound unbelievable, and the claim of ‘too good to be true’ is one that I am sure will go through many people’s minds when they hear about it. 

How does he get around this natural resistance to his claim? Will people believe what he is saying, based on his word alone? For most people, I think the answer is no, and Rossi and his team understand that.

So the approach he has decided on is to get some outside organization to test out the E-Cat SKL and report their findings.  I asked Rossi about this on the Journal of Nuclear Physics.

Frank Acland
December 1, 2019 at 6:12 PM
Dear Andrea,

There is a saying, “If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” To many, what you claim regarding the SKL sounds too good to be true.

A lot is resting on the verification of your technology, and I think independent corroboration of your claims by the verifying entity will be very important in terms of convincing the wider world of the validity your technology.

1. Is the verifying entity independent of Leonardo Corp and any business partners you have?
2. Will the report made by the verifying entity be made public to the world?
3. Will the report include images and video of the SKL?
4. Will the verifying entity participate in your presentation?

He replied:

Andrea Rossi
December 2, 2019 at 12:46 AM
Frank Acland:
1- yes
2- yes
3- yes
4- I think so
Warm Regards,

Rossi has made the decision to do another public presentation instead of a more stealth-style launch. He has said he wants it to be ‘strong and global.’ In order for this to work, the identity of the validating party is going to be important. If Rossi and his team want the E-Cat SKL is to be taken seriously by a wide audience, people will need to be convinced that that those doing the testing are capable, trustworthy and independent. Rossi has said previously that this group “is specialized to test the efficiency of this kind of things.”

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