Rossi Provides E-Cat Theory Outline

Andrea Rossi answered a question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today asking him to explain in a few words what his theoretical thinking was about the E-Cat effect.

This is his reply:

Andrea Rossi
July 18, 2018 at 5:13 AM
Standard Model:
elementary particles are tiny vibrating waves, quantistically defined, in a particular field.
When the temperature reaches the mass of an elementary particle, waves are formed corresponding to those elementary particles.
When the field of these elementary particles resonates with another field during their interaction, new waves can be raised in the second field corresponding to its temperature and if a third field is resonating with these two fields, further particles are raised corresponding with its temperature.
This is what I an consider to be tha base of my effect and I also am convinced that the “source field” is made by electrons, the resonating ones are of virtual e.p. and their antiparticles. Due to the fact that the source field has a T=1-2 eV, this explains why we do not have strong radiations during the thermalization process.
Carl-Oscar and I are preparing a series of heavy experimentation to prove this.
Maybe I am wrong. I think to be right.
Warm Regards,

This seems to be a theoretical framework Rossi has been settling on for quite some time now, and he has mentioned previously that he and Carl-Oscar Gullstrom are planning experiments to test this hypothesis, although he has not reported carrying out any of these experiments yet.

Rossi: Maximum Temperature from the E-Cat SK is 20 000°C

I had not seen any report from Andrea Rossi until now about the temperatures that he is achieving with the E-Cat SK.

Here is a Q&A from the Journal of Nuclear Physics today:

E. Hergen
July 17, 2018 at 8:11 AM
Dear Mr. Rossi,

in a former reply you said you have reached a power density with the ecat SK you have never reached before.

What was the highest temperature you reached with the ecat SK ever, and what is the maximum temperature you can operate the ecat SK without damaging the module?

I hope you give us notice when you for the first time will produce electricity. This will be a monumental event.

Andrea Rossi
July 17, 2018 at 11:58 AM
The max T we reach is around 20 000 °C.
The production of electricity by means of heat is an old and consolidated technology. The difficult is to make the first source of energy, the eventual conversion of it in other forms is not difficult, albeit some efficiency has to be lost.
Warm Regards,

Temperatures of that magnitude are suitable for pretty much any purpose on can think of. Rossi has mentioned that a major challenge has been to keep the reactor cool enough to avoid a meltdown. He has said that the turbine configuration has provided help with cooling, but he has emphasized that it is not yet ready for commercialization. From Rossi’s reply it sounds like they have not yet generated electricity using the turbine, but that should be a trivial task compared to getting the E-Cat to run the turbine in a reliable way.

Rossi: E-Cat SK-Powered Gas Turbine ‘Power Density is the Highest I ever Reached’

Andrea Rossi seems to be concentrating his efforts now on developing the 100 kW E-Cat SK reactor, which he reports he is combining with a gas turbine. Here’s a Q&A on the subject from the Journal of Nuclear Physics today:

Chuck Davis

Dr Rossi:
1- do you already have a gas turbine operating?
2- if yes, which dimensions vs power?
Chuck Davis

Andrea Rossi

Chuck Davis:
1- yes
2- the power density is the highest I ever reached. Premature to give numbers.
Warm Regards,

Rossi has said previously that the ratio in size of the 1 kW QX to the 100 kW SK is 1:10 which, if true, would make the power density of the SK 10 times that of the QX. There will of course be losses when combining the SK with a gas turbine, but even if the turbine was only 20 per cent efficient, it would be twice the power density of the QX.

Steven Karels asked Rossi about how they are dealing with the very high temperatures the E-Cat SK is reportedly producing:

Steven N. Karels
July 14, 2018 at 3:40 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi,

It is difficult for me to envision of 100kW eCat SK reactor that can sustain the temperatures you report without damaging or melting the containment structure. Is the containment structure transparent?

Andrea Rossi
July 14, 2018 at 5:04 AM
Steven N.Karels:
The gas turbine configuration resolves the problem. We are working on this issue for other configurations.
Warm Regards,

Still, Rossi has said that the SK is not ready for production, and apparently they will have to make a decision at some point whether it will be launched as an initial product. When I asked him whether the SK and QX both need to be ready before they can do a product launch he replied, “No. If the SK will not be ready, we will start with the QX anyway.”

New Patent Applications from Industrial Heat Published

Thanks to John Littlemist for bringing attention to new patent applications from Industrial Heat that have been published by the US Patent and Trademark Office. Thanks also to Lou Paggnuco who found them and posted them on the LENR Forum here.

U.S. Patent Application 20180193816 — July 12, 2018


Inventors: Letts; Dennis G.; (Austin, TX)
Applicant: Industrial Heat, LLC Raleigh NC US
Filed: August 22, 2017

ABSTRACT: An exothermic reaction chamber includes at least one of an annular sleeve hosting a hydrogen-absorbing metal, and an electrode having either an outer diameter greater than 50 percent of the reaction chamber bore diameter, perturbations formed on the electrode outer surface, or both. The anode-to-cathode distance may be varied by controlling either or both of the thickness of the annular sleeve and the electrode diameter. Perturbations on the electrode outer surface, which facilitate electrical discharge, may be formed by winding wire around the electrode in a helical pattern, by machining the electrode, or by drilling holes through the electrode and inserting metal rods having pointed or rounded tips into the holes. Both by reducing the anode-to-cathode distance and via perturbations on the outer surface of the electrode, electrical discharge is enhanced. Electrical discharge may drive more hydrogen (deuterium) ions into the hydrogen-absorbing metal, enhancing the efficiency of exothermic reactions.

Excerpts: “Exothermic reactor power is proportional to the volume of hydrogen-absorbing metal.”


U.S. Patent Application 20180197643 — July 12, 2018

Monitoring and Controlling Exothermic Reactions Using Photon Detection Devices

Inventors: Morris; Julie A.; (Flower Mound, TX) ; Murray; Joseph A.; (Raleigh, NC)
Applicant: Industrial Heat, LLC Raleigh NC US
Filed: October 26, 2017

ABSTRACT: A method includes vacuuming an environment containing a low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) system and flowing a gaseous material into the environment. The method includes heating the reactor to a first temperature range and applying a voltage to an electrode passing through a core of the LENR system. The method includes imaging one of the core or the system with a spectrometer and determining that the core is at a desired temperature based on the imaging.…0197643&RS=DN/20180197643


U.S. Patent Application 20180193815 — July 12, 2018


Inventors: Letts; Dennis G.; (Austin, TX)
Applicant: H IP Holdings Limited, St. Helier GB
Filed: June 6, 2017

ABSTRACT: An exothermic reaction of hydrogen/deuterium loaded into a metal or alloy is triggered by controlling the frequency of a hydrogen/deuterium plasma in a reaction chamber. The plasma frequency is controlled by adjusting its electron density, which in turn is controlled by adjusting the pressure within the reaction chamber. An exothermic reaction is generated at certain discrete plasma frequencies, which correspond to the optical phonon modes of D-D, H-D, and H–H bonds within the metal lattice. For example, in palladium metal, the frequencies are 8.5 THz, 15 THz, and 20 THz, respectively.

CENTAUR: DOE Funded Project for ‘Basic Research in Low-Energy Nuclear Science’

Thanks to John Koskela for posting the following from CENTAUR, the Center for Excellence in Nuclear Training And University-based Research.

Link is here:

The Center for Excellence in Nuclear Training And University-based Research (CENTAUR) is a multi-institutional effort led by Texas A&M University and supported by a five-year, $10 million Stewardship Science Academic Alliances (SSAA) grant from the Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration (DOE/NNSA). CENTAUR will pursue basic research in low-energy nuclear science through experimental, theoretical, and technical programs using accelerators at Texas A&M’s Cyclotron Institute and Florida State University’s John D. Fox Superconducting Linear Accelerator Laboratory as well as facilities at the other participating institutions. Existing collaborations between scientists at Texas A&M and the NNSA national laboratories—including Los Alamos National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory—will be incorporated into center programs and expanded to involve scientists from all partner institutions, which include Florida State, Washington University in St. Louis, the University of Washington, Louisiana State University and the University of Notre Dame.

When they state they are pursuing basic research in “low-energy nuclear science”, it does sound like LENR might be covered, but it’s not clear if they really are interested in it. This is a grant from the Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration, which normally deals with traditional nuclear fission.

Here’s a DOE press release from July 5, 2018 about the project:

WASHINGTON – The Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration (DOE/NNSA) has designated a new Center of Excellence to be led by Texas A&M University in the area of Low Energy Nuclear Science as part of the Stewardship Science Academic Alliances (SSAA) Program.

“These grants are instrumental in developing the next generation of scientists in areas of relevance to the stockpile stewardship mission,” said Dr. Kathleen Alexander, Assistant Deputy Administrator for Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation in NNSA’s Office of Defense Programs.

Texas A&M University will receive $10 million over five years to manage the Center for Excellence in Nuclear Training and University-based Research (CENTAUR), which will measure high-impact reaction observables and make reaction theory more robust.

CENTAUR, led by Dr. Sherry Yennello, will combine experimental and theoretical initiatives to measure relevant nuclear structure and reaction properties with a large focus on the use of radioactive beams and/or targets. Academic partner institutions include: Florida State University, Washington University, the University of Washington, and Louisiana State University.

Launched in 2002, the SSAA program supports areas of fundamental research and development that are relevant to NNSA’s stockpile stewardship mission while helping to recruit the next generation of highly-trained technical scientists and engineers for the Nuclear Security Enterprise.

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Radio Waves Experiment (Sean)

I thought it would be useful to start a new thread with these two comments by Sean from the recent Electric Universe Thread here, who has shared some details from an experiment he has done.

1. Just did an experiment. I took a normal 3 inch long x 3/8″ Dia.Steel spring an using a voltmeter set to Millivolts and proceeded to do the following. Across the spring length = 0 mv. across the magnet = 0 mv. Placed insulation tape between magnet and spring = .8 mv. I think that its picking up background radiation. So the next experiment was to measure my mobile VHF/UHF ham radio antenna indoors. I hooked up the PL259 plug directly to to voltmeter and I measured 3.7 mv.

2. Well I think I have found the missing ingredient to that You-Tube video. It is something that you cannot see. RADIO WAVES. I set up the experiment again and keyed up my Baofeng hand held ham radio a few feet away and up went the voltage to 2.3 Volts. That’s enough to light a LED. I remember when I had CB sets back in the 70’s, You could tape a Neon light to the antenna for fun. When you keyed up the neon would light up extremely bright especially if you place it near the loading coil at center mast. (It got very hot also).

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Electric Universe Conference in UK to Feature SAFIRE Team Leader Childs

Thanks to Steve Taylor for posting the following about an upcoming presentation about the Electric Universe project. Many readers will recall that the SAFIRE (Stellar Atmospheric Function In Regulation Experiment) project is connected with the Electric Universe project. The SAFIRE team is carrying out experiments to test the ‘Electric Sun’ theory.

In a presentation made last year the SAFIRE team reported about an anomalous heat event that occurred inside their experimental reaction chambers in which a tungsten probe used to measure reaction temperatures was vaporized when the input power at the time was only 182 W.  The presentation can be seen on this video:

Steve Taylor posted this:

There is a presentation coming July 7 thru 11 in Somerset, UK. Montgomery Childs [SAFIRE team leader] will be one of the speakers. It is part of the Electric Universe Reconnect 2018 conference. I do hope they will tell what progress has been since August last year. Maybe this should be highlighted in a current post.

Details about the upcoming presentation can be found here:

Ionizing Radiation from E-Cats beyond Background has ‘Never’ Been Measured

Here’s an interesting exchange on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today regarding the issue of whether the E-Cat produces ionizing radiation.

Prof July 4, 2018 at 7:30 PM
Dr Andrea Rossi

There is a buzz in the internet that your Ecat SK could have issues related to the radiations it could emit.
Are you worried of this issue? Could your presentaton of the industrialized Ecat SK be jeopardized by it?



Andrea Rossi July 4, 2018 at 9:20 PM
We constantly measure all the radiations emitted by the Ecat. The emissions have also been thoroughly measured by the specialized officers of the Healthcare Office of Florida, that has a team of specialized agents for this specific purpose, as well as from Physics Professors specialized in such measurement and NEVER has been measured an excess of ionizing radiations beyond the background. This also is an indirect confirmation of the theoretical intuition Gullstrom and I are studying upon ( Carl-Oscar Gullstrom, nuclear physic from the University of Uppsala- you can find his lecture on Youtube whose link is also in our website, or Google ” Youtube video Carl Oscar Gullstrom theoretical lecture of Ecat presentation Stockholm November 24 2017 ”

Warm Regards,

In some of the public tests that have taken place over the years, there have been radiation measurements taken close to the E-Cats, and no radiation beyond background has been reported. This comment is the first time that I can recall Andrea Rossi stating that officers from the Healthcare Office of Florida have measured radiation from the E-Cat. It would be interesting to read a report from those tests.

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Michael McKubre at ICCF-21

LENR consultant and former Director of Energy Research at SRI International Michael McKubre presented at the 21st International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science held at Colorado State University in Fort Collins Colorado. The five-day conference ran June 3-8, 2018 and featured multiple groups reporting solid results in the generation of excess heat and transmutations. …

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Brillouin Energy Closes Second Paid Commercial License Within The Asia-Pacific Region (Brillouin Energy Press Releas)

The following is a press release from Brillouin Energy. Original document is available here: (Thanks to Sam for the heads up)


CECR technology rights sold to a leading industrial group

BERKELEY, CA, July 2, 2018 – Brillouin Energy Corp. (, a leading company in the low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) field, announced that it has secured its second paid commercial license of its CECR technologies. The license was sold to a leading industrial group within the Asia-Pacific region. This latest achievement marks another significant step in the company’s mission to create ultra-clean, low-cost, renewable energy products that are capable of producing commercially useful therma lenergy (heat).

“This announcement is an important milestone in our quest to deliver world-changing ultra-clean, low-cost renewable energy technologies”, said company CEO, Robert W. George. “This latest accomplishment further validates the commercial potential of the company’s underlying CECR technologies.”

The new license agreement pays a combination of up front fees plus various royalty streams over time. Brillouin will use the immediate revenue to continue development of its green energy solutions that original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) can design into highly energy efficient products. This in turn brings the company closer to the reality of commercial LENR power.

For more information about Technology Licensing or OEM Partnerships with Brillouin Energy Corp., please see

For further information about this News Release, please contact: Grant Draper +1-415-745-0254

About Brillouin Energy Corp.:

Brillouin Energy is a clean-technology company based in Berkeley California USA, which is developing an ultra-clean, low-cost, renewable energy technology that is capable of producing commercially useful thermal energy from LENR. Brillouin’s LENR technology includes a proprietary method known as CECR, which electrically stimulates nickel metal conductors using its Q-Pulse™ control system. The stimulation process produces LENR reactions, which generates heat. The potential cost of the system inputs relative to the heat outputs is very low. Other than the heat output, there are no (zero) toxic or CO2 byproduct emissions of any kind.

For further information about Brillouin Energy Corp., please contact:David Firshein, CFO +1-415-419-6429

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