Book: Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism (Ken Wheeler)

The following post has been submitted by Martin.

Ken Wheeler’s book on magnetism is worth a look at by anyone interested in understanding the
LENR phenomenon in my view. His views on science are unconventional to say the least.

Going back to the ‘greats’ of Maxwell, Tesla, and Steinmetz he revives both the consideration of both
dielectricity and the ether theory. His principle claim is that magnetism has to do with space
expansion and movement, and dielectricity has to do with counter-space (the ether), and inertia.
Electricity is the conjunction of the dielectric and magnetic and is to magnetism what dielectricity
is to mass/gravity. The image below should hopefully ring a few bells!

Obviously there are many on here with a good working knowledge of contemporary scientific
theory. I have no idea to what extent his ideas may appear crackpot to those with a good
knowledge of physics, etc., but I think that if his theory helps suggest or provoke interesting
thoughts then it doesn’t matter if it can be shown to be wrong.

His experiments with magnets and his explanation of the forces at work seemed relevant to the discussion here so I thought it worth posting here. His book can be found here:

And he does many videos on YouTube under the name Theoria Apophasis.


Rossi: Next Event to Take Place in Sweden

Here’s an answer to a straightforward question asked by a reader on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about the location of the upcoming E-Cat presentation:

Gian Luca
December 3, 2019 at 7:12 AM
Carissimo Andrea
maybe someone has already asked this question but where will the next event take place? Europe vs USA?

Andrea Rossi
December 3, 2019 at 7:44 AM
Gian Luca:
Warm Regards,

So it’s back to the country where Andrea Rossi first introduced the E-Cat QX in November of 2017. Then it was a low powered unit which required a large control box plugged into the mains in order to operate, and which Rossi said he had problems keeping cool. Over two years have passed and supposedly a lot of improvements have been made, allowing for the E-Cat to operate without any external input power.

With Sweden as a venue, maybe he can’t say at the moment, but I hope that Mats Lewan is able to participate somehow.

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More on the Verification of the E-Cat SKL

There has been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere about the revolutionary nature of the latest version of the E-Cat as claimed by Andrea Rossi.

He is saying that the E-Cat SK Leonardo is a small box, about the size of a Rubik’s Cube, which can sit and put out hundreds, if not thousands of Watts of electricity for months on end without the need for refueling or recharging.

Based on all human experience with technology to date, it does sound unbelievable, and the claim of ‘too good to be true’ is one that I am sure will go through many people’s minds when they hear about it. 

How does he get around this natural resistance to his claim? Will people believe what he is saying, based on his word alone? For most people, I think the answer is no, and Rossi and his team understand that.

So the approach he has decided on is to get some outside organization to test out the E-Cat SKL and report their findings.  I asked Rossi about this on the Journal of Nuclear Physics.

Frank Acland
December 1, 2019 at 6:12 PM
Dear Andrea,

There is a saying, “If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” To many, what you claim regarding the SKL sounds too good to be true.

A lot is resting on the verification of your technology, and I think independent corroboration of your claims by the verifying entity will be very important in terms of convincing the wider world of the validity your technology.

1. Is the verifying entity independent of Leonardo Corp and any business partners you have?
2. Will the report made by the verifying entity be made public to the world?
3. Will the report include images and video of the SKL?
4. Will the verifying entity participate in your presentation?

He replied:

Andrea Rossi
December 2, 2019 at 12:46 AM
Frank Acland:
1- yes
2- yes
3- yes
4- I think so
Warm Regards,

Rossi has made the decision to do another public presentation instead of a more stealth-style launch. He has said he wants it to be ‘strong and global.’ In order for this to work, the identity of the validating party is going to be important. If Rossi and his team want the E-Cat SKL is to be taken seriously by a wide audience, people will need to be convinced that that those doing the testing are capable, trustworthy and independent. Rossi has said previously that this group “is specialized to test the efficiency of this kind of things.”

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Abstracts for Papers at Upcoming Japan CF-Research Society Meeting: Numerous Reports of Excess Heat Production

Thanks to Sam for posting a link to abstracts of papers that will be presented at The 20th Meeting of Japan CF-Research Society in Fukuoka which will be held December 13-14, 2019.

Reading through the abstracts gives the impression that there is an active community of researchers in Japan who are working towards the goal of understanding energy production/transmutation through LENR processes, and some are claiming success in generating excess heat production.

Here are just a few quotes that stood out from some of the abstracts:

“Excess Energy Generation Experiments using a Nano-sized Multilayer Metal Composite and Hydrogen Gas” S. Murakami, et al.

“Up to now, maximum released excess energy reached 1.1MJ and average released energy per absorbed total hydrogen was 16 keV/H or 1.5 GJ/H-mol. It cannot be explained by any known chemical process”

“Enhancement of Excess Thermal Power in Interaction of Nano-Metal
and H(D)-Gas” A Takahashi, et al.

“Latest results on anomalous heat effect (AHE) by interaction of binary nano-composite metal powders and H (or D) gas, after the NEDO-MHE project (2015-2017), were reported by our ICCF22 presentation and paper.”

“Verification of anomalous heat detected by differential scanning calorimetry from Palladium-Nickel-Zirconium alloy in hydrogen flow” Y. Satoh, et al.

“In this work, we examined the anomalous heat generation from a small amount of palladium-nickel-zirconium alloy (PNZ) by differential scanning calorimetry (DSC) under various conditions,
which is aimed to clarify abnormality of the heat generation phenomenon.”

“Anomalous Heat in New Binary Metal System under Hydrogen Stream” I. Imoto, et al.

“As a result, we found for the first time that some binary metal systems generates anomalous heat at 500-800 °C. The samples of Al-Ni binary system showed the exothermal heat flow over 300 mW/g which was very large compared with 20 mW/g obtained with the same DSC apparatus for Pd-Ni-Zr sample. Similarly, Al-Ti (40 mW/g at 700 °C) and Al-Ca (90 mW/g at 400 °C) binary systems exhibited large anomalous heat at a high temperature. These samples were repeatedly evaluated, resulted in high reproducibility with respect to anomalous heat generation”

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10-20 kg for a 20 kW E-Cat SKL is ‘Reasonable’ Guess

Andrea Rossi has stated that the size of the E-Cat SKL is 10 x 10 x 10 cm, and the energy required to start up the E-Cat and maintain its operation is 38 W. However he has not yet given an output power figure.

On the Journal of Nuclear Physics, Joseph Fine made a comment in which he tried to make a calculation of the energy density of the E-Cat based on an assumption that the E-Cat SKL power rating is 20 kW. He wrote:

A 1 liter (1000 cubic centimeters) volume of water has a mass of 1 kg. An estimate of 10 or 20 kg for the SKL mass is only a wild guess.

Is this estimate in the ball park?

Andrea Rossi replied:

Andrea Rossi
November 30, 2019 at 3:13 PM
Dr Joseph Fine:
A weight of 10-20 kg for an assembly of 20 kW is reasonable.
Warm Regards,

This is not exactly a confirmation of Joseph Fine’s guess about the SKL that Rossi and his team have been testing, because we still don’t know how much the 10 cm^3 SKL weighs, as we don’t know what materials are inside it, but it maybe gets us a little closer to making an educated guess.

Using his assumptions, Joseph Fine calculated the energy density thus:

Assuming power output is 20 kW and charge lifetime is 6 months or ~ 182 days, the energy density in (Wh/kg) is 20,000 W * 24 hrs/day * 182 days/charge * (1 charge/x kg ) = ~ 8.7*10^7 Wh/(X kg).
If the E-Cat SKL has a mass of X = 10 kg, the energy density would be about 8.7*10^6 Wh/kg.

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More Q&As with Rossi: Three SKLs Built and Working

There continues to be a series of Q&As on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about the E-Cat SK Leonardo, and

One question was about the number of E-Cat SKLs that have been built:

November 29, 2019 at 7:43 AM
Dear Mr Rossi
I have just two questions :
1. How many working E-Cat SKL have you built ?

AR: three

2. Are they still working since last Saturday ?

AR: yes

Some more questions from Gerard McEk:

Gerard McEk
November 28, 2019 at 4:42 PM
Dear Andrea,
Some remarks an questions, if I may:

1. Heat verses electricity is indeed very useful, but can also the output power of the ECat Leonardo be modulated? I know that you van put them in series and in parallel, but it would also be flexible if the Ecat output power can be modulated to some extend.

AR: yes

2. Will the verification test in January also include safety tests? If that is done it might be put on the market more easily, perhaps.

AR: yes

3. Can the single module of the Leonardo be built to any power, do you think?

AR: no

4. A 20 kWe/h unit might be the right size for many applications (domestic, cars and building bock for larger applications). I would recommend that size. Is that feasible?

AR: yes

I wish you many success with the further tests and the preparation for the verification test.
Thanks and kind regards, Gerard

In addition, yesterday I asked him about the group that Rossi has stated will be doing the testing of the E-Cat SKL in January. Ross has stated that it will be an ‘verifying entity’ that is known throughout the world. I asked him if this entity was “known for providing independent evaluation of products?”, and his answer was “Yes.”

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SPACE . EARTH . HUMAN . Update (Bob Greenyer)

Thanks to Bob Greenyer for posting this comment in the Always Open thread.

SPACE . EARTH . HUMAN . is coming

Translation and proof reading finished (pending notes from Author). Book layout has begun.

Parkhomov in his book, calculates that you need approximately 100V + to start synthesising Neutrinos of the slow type needed for LENR. Now, hold that in mind when you look at Mondaini’s work here

Look at the threshold when the reaction changes. Now,

e + v + p + p > D

electron + slow neutrino + proton + proton > Deuterium*_from_FusionAll_where_E1eqHandE2eqHByMeV.html

This results in D and the abundance of OH that Mondaini, Ohmasa and Stankovic observed in their solutions/gasses and that Mondaini physically observed on his hands and from radio spectra.

As I said at ICCF-22, the 10 Yen coin was cut like a laser, at least in part, because the OH, IMHO, self-mased (Microwave ovens heat your food by vibrating the OH bonds in water – rest is obvious).

In the case of Mondaini’s observation of Si formation from Al, this is just Al fusion with the resulting D inside the EVOs.*_from_FusionAll_where_lbE1eqHorE1eqDrbandE2eqAlByMeVDesc.html

D is far more favourable energetically.

Rossi: 38 Watts Starts and Maintains the E-Cat SKL, Automatic Shutdown if No Load or Overload

Andrea Rossi has not provided details yet about the power produced by the E-Cat SK Leonardo, but today he has given information about the power it uses to operate and some other features.

Here is a Q&A from the Journal of Nuclear Physics today.

toussaint françois
November 28, 2019 at 7:14 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi,

May I ask you 2 questions, please.
What is the power necessary to start up the SKL ?
And what is the power necessary to maintain the closed loop of the SKL ?
Warm Regards.
Toussaint François

Andrea Rossi
November 28, 2019 at 9:23 AM
Toussaints Francois:
38 Watts for both.
Warm Regards,

He was also asked what happens if the load drops to zero, and thee ECW is still producing electricity. He replied, “If the load drops to zero the Ecat SK Leonardo will stop to operate.”

Regarding a question about what would happen if the SKL got overloaded he replied, “There are the normal protections against shorts and the Ecat, obviously, can sustain loads that do not overcome its power. If you lower the resistance beyond this limit, the amperage goes to zero and the Ecat shuts down.”

In another comment, a reader asked (in Italian) if there had been any cases of ‘divergence’ in the operation of the SKL. Rossi replied that following the startup they had not seen any malfunctions.

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Rossi on Verifying the E-Cat SK Leonardo

Andrea Rossi has been making some more comments about how he intends to roll out the E-Cat SK Leonardo. In contrast with the presentation he made early this year where he himself spoke about the E-Cat SK and showed a prerecorded video, this time it sounds like he intends to let a third party examine the E-Cat, perform tests with it, and publish/present information about it.

Here are some comments he has made about this testing and presentation (emphasis added):

Andrea Rossi
November 26, 2019 at 10:47 AM
Stefano G.:
For many reasond the certification of efficiency has been decided by an entity that is specialized to test the efficiency of this kind of things. They are specialists and as far as I am concerned they can do what they want.To measure the Ecat SK Leonardo is very simple: no energy enters, electricity and heat exit. To measure the Wh through a load is simple, to measure the Joules at the input and the output of a heat exchanger is well known.
Warm Regards,

Andrea Rossi
November 26, 2019 at 12:58 PM
Frank Acland:
The certifications of the efficiency made by the entity that will make the test on the Ecat SK Leonardo.
Should be completed within January.
Warm Regards,

Andrea Rossi
November 26, 2019 at 6:09 PM
Karl Wieslander:
A so stupid and insulting comment comes obviously from a troll.
Usually I spam the rock and troll music, but this I wanted to publish for a more general issue: the Entity that will make the performance certification will have access to the black box, to verify what it contains for safety reasons. They will not have know how information about the connections and the logic of the control system.
So, in this case from a troll’s comment has been born a useful information, therefore I am publishing it.

Andrea Rossi
November 26, 2019 at 6:37 PM
Italo R.:
It is not necessary, but we want that the presentation is corroborated by a performance certification made by independent experts. This presentation will be strong and global and I want not to base it on my declaration, due to the importance of the issue. It is not necessary, but I want it.
Warm regards,

I think it’s clear here that Rossi understands that the claims he is making about the E-Cat SKL are very bold and hard to believe based on known science and technology, and for this reason, in order for him to be taken seriously, he has to let a third party verify what he is claiming. I would also think that any business partners he may have would see this kind of verification as a necessary step for commercial acceptance.

In terms of access to the inner workings of the SKL, Rossi seems to be happy to let the verifiers physically inspect the device to their hearts content, but not give them the secrets of the control system which is apparently the key to making the SKL work.

So far the timing of the presentation has not been announced. Yesterday Rossi stated that the work of the verifiers would take place in January, and based on how long it takes them to complete their work, it may be necessary to move the presentation to February.

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Rossi States E-Cat SKL Runs in a Closed Loop and is Silent

Here are a couple of questions put to Andrea Rossi about characteristics of the E-Cat SK Leonardo. The first, from me, about whether the SKL was running in a closed loop.

Frank Acland
November 25, 2019 at 8:15 AM
Dear Andrea,

In your test this Saturday, was the E-Cat SK Leonardo operating without being connected to any external power source? In other words, was it operating in a closed loop (producing enough power to sustain itself)?

Andrea Rossi
November 25, 2019 at 10:41 PM
Frank Acland:
Yes, the Ecat SK Leonardo works in closed loop, producing enough electric energy to sustain itself, plus electric energy to power for example an engine, or whatever you want, reaching any power just assembling ,ore modules to put in series and parallels. Here stays the revolution.
Warm Regards,

The other question was about the noise levels of the E-Cat SKL:

Donald G Chandler
November 25, 2019 at 1:32 PM
Dear Dr Rossi

Congratulations on your announced success with electricity generating SSM ecat.
Can you tell us how quiet or noisy this device is?
1. Fan noise?
2. Relay noise?
3. Inverter/magnetic hum?
4. Other?
5. What decibel measurement? Or comparison. E.g. like a desktop computer?


Andrea Rossi
November 25, 2019 at 1:49 PM
Donald G.Chandler:
No noise at all
Warm Regards

It all sounds rather unbelievable, some might say too good to be true, but speaking for myself, I think it is likely his claims are true. Of course it needs to be demonstrated and that’s something we need to see.

The best way that I conceptualize this is that Rossi has invented a new kind of battery that operates on new principles but does essentially the same kind of things that we are used to batteries doing: producing electric current. Like a traditional battery, it will eventually run out charge and will need to be replaced or recharged.

If it is closed loop and silent it wouldn’t surprise me if over time the E-Cat SKL was engineered into something as small as a AAA battery and could be incorporated into everyday portable consumer products as well as larger appliances and vehicles.

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