Rossi on the Need for a Partner [Updated Again]

Here’s an exchange I had with Andrea Rossi on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about his partnership with the American company he has referred to so often. I know there are some who have been concerned that Rossi has ‘sold out’ by turning his technology over to external corporate interests, who may want to restrict the use of the E-Cat (prevent the sale of domestic E-Cats, for example) or even keep it completely from being used in the real world. Dear Andrea, I think more people are becoming convinced of the reality of your technology in light of the recent test report and I am sure that many are looking forward to seeing the E-Cat in the marketplace. 1. What are the advantages for your technology in entering to a partnership with a US partner rather than staying independent? A. Our US Partner is a Carrier, like the Enterprise, we are a small warship. Now we can fight to win a world war. Without the help of our US Partner we could not survive. Maybe also physically. 2. How have you been able to ensure that your technology will not be buried or surpressed? A. Choosing the right Partner, enthusiast [...]

More Meta Data On HotCat Test

The following is a rough translation from Google of what appears to be a presentation published as a pdf at Borderlands.de. Borderlands seems to report on fringe science and the Swiss company Transaltec AG – an eCat licensee is among the links on their homepage. The pdf is here and includes some familiar images. I put this here for your info before studying it myself. It’s late!

 

“Peer reviewed Tests” the E-Cat technology of Ing A. Rossi and LENR: International energy markets feared earthquake-like shifts

On 14 Th December 2012 visit to the editors, managing director of TransAltec AG (Swiss distribution license holder of the E-Cat technology), the new large labora-tory of the Leonardo Corporation in Ferrara. There they were there, the measurements shown are from four inde-pendent professors evaluated the results of the international energy market far more dread than Andrea Rossi, as the following report shows.

Do not fear the measuring resultaten! The visit, the results and objectives can not be publizert, was held together with Swiss and German business partners TransAltec AG. Andrea Rossi showed all participants, inter alia, a measurement setup from the Hot-E-Cat (500 degrees). These measurements are “peer reviewed” analyzes of four independent professors. After measurements were carried out for seven days, according to A. Rossi, would the measurement setup the next day – ie on 15 December – down and the measurements evaluated. He did not fear the results, he said, but the editors: “I’m the measurement results in each case publish whatever they may be, too!”

However, he informed the editors neither who the measurements where the still-led evaluation yet when and where they will take place det published. The reason is simple: he does not know it ourselves! Let the experts take care (which he has entrusted himself), which perform the measurements, credibility and confidentiality until the end. But one thing is certain: Andrea Rossi himself has done for months or years of measurements, before he was ready to independent mea-surements It must therefore be assumed that the measurements confirm his own results!

As is known, it is the E-Cat technology is a nickel-hydrogen reaction in which hydrogen by ionization in the metal lattice of the nickel crystals difun-dated and in different Folgepro processes via nuclear excitation or transmutation of energy into thermal radiation is converted. This means that with this method, without fuel, with little (recyclable clierbarem) nickel and hydrogen and sixth electrical power supply – that is, with a COP of 6:1! – A 1 MW plant (10 kW heating systems and later) are operated.

Visit to a reference system only after the signing of a LOI! Several 1-MW turbines were sold in November 2011 and are in operation in the United States. From the end of February / beginning of March is a 1-M plant visits are the can in Italy with an Italian energy company. At the meeting of 14 Andrea Rossi December 2012 made it clear that he wants to make sure position-ing that no inquisitive access the service. The condition for a tour of a plant ge is therefore only possible if inter-ested previously signed a Letter of Intent LOI, which they obliged to buy a plant, once they have seen on the spot that the reference system works and they could speak with the operator of the 1 MW plant.

The organization of the tour runs through the instruction of the respective licensees Sales-sorganisationen: in Germany, it is the E-Cat-Germany GmbH under the leadership of CEO Hartmut Dobler, in Switzerland it is the company TransAltec AG under the leadership of Adolf and Inge Schneider. For this purpose also see the presentation of the E-Cat technology in the Congress “Technologies for Energy Transition” of 11-12. May 2013 in Königstein (page 18). In Switzerland, will take place on 22.2. the next E-Cat meeting place for partners, in Germany already run training courses for distributors and sublicensees. For more information on the websites 1.2

The energy industry fears earth-shaking turmoil! While engineer Andrea Rossi feels relatively sure of the results of independent measurements, fears have already used other around. Several insider websites such as Feng Shui News Blog reports circulated by which major oil companies such as BP, Shell, Exxon and others have begun their investments in oil fields around the world to sell. The backgrounds would serve that the E-Cat & LENR-technologies would provide plenty of swirls behind the scenes.

Thus, these circles would with voltage for February announced the review for the latest E-Cat development, the so-called “Hot Cat” expect. We hear what the editors from our own experience of already know:

“An independent science team also de-December 2012 has tested the LENR reactor of the Italian inventor Andrea Rossi and pre-sented in brief the results in a scientific journal (peer reviewed) of the world public. Will this finally release the long awaited ‘LENR hype’ in the mainstream media? ”

Would for some industries, so here is everything at stake: First of all, it is about nothing less than the promise of a- ner inexhaustible energy source that will provide future every human on earth, and perhaps far beyond our planet with clean energy rer. No oil, no coal, no “nuclear power” would the more needed for energy, and wind power and solar energy would disappear from the screen surface. Why? Because on “Low Energy Nuclear Reac-tions” (LENR) energy gained hardly consumes resources and therefore costs almost nothing.

But it really depends on the pre-vious lack of independent testing by A. Rossi, that LENR research and the development of relevant applications in the public consciousness so far only permanent Schattenda is-a? Certainly not. Rather it is the societal conditions and grown over the years, closely intertwined with each other economic, political and media structures that hold the interest of “Cold Fusion” for years small or scientists to ridicule award-tion, although in hundreds was already shown by laboratories around the world that LENR works.

Already last year, the MIT, one of the world’s most renowned scientific institutes, LENR-tested a small reactor with the name “Nanor” the size of a Tupperware publicly. Admittedly, the amount of energy generated Ing Andrea Rossi (left) is (besides Prof. Sergio Focardi) although with his E-Cat technology-the most successful, but by no means the only protagonist of cold fusion and LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). January / February 2013 NET-Journal Vol 18, Issue 1/2 15 was small with about 78 milliwatts. However, the fact that the reactor for months generated 12 times more energy than was plugged back into it, provide long for worldwide headlines in popular scientific magazines. But nothing has happened.

Even Toyota, Mitsubishi, StMI-croelectronics, Amaco, the U.S. Navy and NASA have not played now officially confirmed that they are off on LENR topic and have achieved in their own laboratory investigations promising results. You ask yourself seriously: If all this does not reason enough to get together physicists worldwide to finally understand the LENR phenomenon and to make available to mankind, as billions more to Forschungsgel countries in projects of “hot fusion” to sink?

As for the persuasiveness of “scientific arguments”, Max Planck, one of the fathers of quantum theory, once gbeschrieben very aptly: “A new scientific truth does not enforce in such a way that their opponents are convinced and agree as instructed, but much-more by the fact that their opponents die out gradually and that the growing generation is familiarized with the truth from the beginning. “Even if the scientists themselves in self-defense hard to do with the acceptance of technologies such as e-Cat devices so but can the international press, such a development no longer ignore, because not scientists, but “ordinary people” are the main part of their readers – and is already too big of Rossi hype.

Turbulence in gear! If you are thinking that the expected review will immediately lead to turbulence in the international energy markets, has obviously followed the financial news of recent weeks not particularly attentive. For this turbulence is already well under way! First oil companies have understood it. It says “oil-producing tower burning – E-Cat & LENR responsible for earthquake-like shifts in the international energy markets?”

Or: “Burning oil förderturm: symbol for the beginning of the decline,” It is as mentioned a fact that the big oil companies such as BP, Shell, Exxon and others have begun their oil fields for sale around the world (s . news.cnet.com). Petrobras has spent a decade so that, majority stakes in a large-Texas oil refinery need to acquire. Now they are desperately like to get rid of it and take even large discounts in buying

Nuclear power plants and Ölmul-ti at the end? Nuclear power plant owners in the U.S. cancel their investment projects and are preparing their equipment to progressively close out. All these companies give reasons, which seem plausible in itself, but in this global massiveness allow connection to only one conclusion: We are in the midst of dictation th through free energy technologies, energy revolution! Who does not believe, here are more examples of the “diversification and divestment strategies” of the oil companies who have a different background:

BP:   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business- 20527045 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle. do?categoryId=2012968&contentId =7081129 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do? categoryId=2012968&contentId= 7080956 http://indrus.in/articles/2012/11/29/ rosneft_and_bp_to_develop_new _arctic_oil_fields_19411.html

Shell http://www.hydrocarbons-technology. com/news/newsshell-divests-stake- nigerian-oil-asset

Exxon http://www.fool.com/investing/general/ 2013/01/13/exxon-and-the-world- of-foreign-oil.aspx http://www.newsystocks.com/News/41 08444/Weak-Demand-Outlook- Forces-Exxon-Mobil%E2%80% 93XOM%E2%80%93to-Sell-Its- Japanese-Unit http://www.reuters.com/article/ 2012/ 11/07/us-iraq-exxon-idUSBRE 8A60Y420121107

While the general public of the true background of the shifts in the international energy markets practically knows nothing, many scientists stuck still their head in the sand, maintain their dogmas and let the representatives of politics and media, their themes dictated by the economic , there are a growing number of people, their hope of a better and fairer world to the breakthrough free energy technologies – not to mention the e-Cat technology! – Socialize. This breakthrough is unstoppable, as well as a many-explicit contributions in this book show!

Sources: www.everyday-feng-shui.de http://www.lenrproof.com/ http://world.std.com/~mica/nanor- technology.htm

Websites www.ecatschweiz.com www.e-cat-deutschland.de

Dr. Peter Hagelstein,

 

[With thanks to Claudio C Fiorini on Vortex]

Andrea Rossi NextMe eCat Q&A

The following Q&A is posted on Rossi’e blog. While I am wary of trying to figure out what we can take away from his numerous proclamations, I find his comments regarding the test conditions interesting. In various post-test author comments, it is evident that there were more checks undertaken than those published in the paper. Here, Rossi says that the testers performed various cautionary moves (such as providing their own cables) that I find reassuring. I have no reason to doubt this as – with so many authors involved - the statement would (I hope) be challenged by one or more of them.

Other comments of note include two further tests and an admition that things are not likely to speed up. As with all such postings, we must remind ourselves to treat them with caution. For some, that will mean dismissing them and for others, perhaps, provide another meta-data point for the Rossi enigmaCat.

 

  • Dear dr Rossi,
    we are interested to ask you a short interview. We leave here the questions. Thank you in advance for your readiness
    Kind regards
    Roberta De Carolis on behalf of NextMe.it

    The independent test results confirm the scientific validity of the Hot E-cat equipment. As it has been reported on the publication report, the performance has been verified successfully. But how could you explain the difference between the COP you stated in the past (11.6) and the results obtained on E-cat HT (5.6) and E-cat HT 2 (2.9)?

    Which are the main differences between E-cat HT and E-cat HT 2? Are you agree with the explanations provided by the researchers about the difference observed in the COP values?

    The tests are essentially  based on the measurement of the incoming and the outcoming energy, so they could not prove the reaction mechanism. Why should we be sure that this is a nuclear reaction?

    Hot E-cat is co-generation thermal-electric system, and you stated that production of electricity has been committed to Siemens AG, developing a suitable turbine to be coupled to the reactor. Could you confirm this collaboration?

    Do you believe that this important result could speed up the certification procedures for security? Could you estimate the timings?

    The delivery of three plants of 1 MW E-Cat in the U.S. is now official. However, in an earlier statement you mentioned customers, but now we came to know that they are industrial partners. Could you tell us if this delivery is just preliminary to the real one and when this will happen?

    We know that that a US client representative attended the test. Could you tell us whether he is the client buying the plant? Could you communicate to our readers the satisfaction degree expressed by him about the testing?

 

 

  • Andrea Rossi

    Redazione NextMe.it:
    1- COP depends from temperature and many other factors. The Examiners also considered all the margin of errors in the worst situation against us, to be conservative at maximum. They wanted to be sure beyond any possible and reasonable doubt. For example: they wanted a wood plan to put on all the electric and electronic devices, they wanted to use their own cables of their own measurement devices, they wanted to lift and seat themselves any conponent to be sure no other cables or any kind of contact was there…combining all the margin of error against us we lost a lot of efficiency, but it is fine, since the scope of the test was not commercial, it was merely scientific: the Professors wanted to know beyond any reasonable doubt if there was an excess of energy or not
    2- Yes, I substantially agree. The differences are described in the report
    3- Because of the 1st principle of thermodynamic. See also the Ragone diagram
    4- We are under NDA
    5- No, I do not see any nexus. The certification for the industrial plants has been granted, though
    6- We delivered to our US Partner. He will deliver to his Customers
    7- Wrong: the test of the Indoipendent Third Party, made in March, has nothing to do with the test made by the US Partner on April 30 and May 1. The test made by the Customer has made possible for us to continue to work for the Customer. It has been better than expected, we got results better that what we has guaranteed.
    Good Luck to your magazine!
    Andrea Rossi

 

New Q & A Between Nextme.it and Andrea Rossi

Below is a Q & A from the Journal of Nuclear Physics. The questions were submitted by Roberta De Carolis from the Italian web site NextMe.it and answered by Andrea Rossi : The independent test results confirm the scientific validity of the Hot E-cat equipment. As it has been reported on the publication report, the performance has been verified successfully. But how could you explain the difference between the COP you stated in the past (11.6) and the results obtained on E-cat HT (5.6) and E-cat HT 2 (2.9)? A. COP depends from temperature and many other factors. The Examiners also considered all the margin of errors in the worst situation against us, to be conservative at maximum. They wanted to be sure beyond any possible and reasonable doubt. For example: they wanted a wood plan to put on all the electric and electronic devices, they wanted to use their own cables of their own measurement devices, they wanted to lift and seat themselves any conponent to be sure no other cables or any kind of contact was there…combining all the margin of error against us we lost a lot of efficiency, but it is fine, since the scope of [...]

Forbes’ Gibbs on E-Cat Fraud Claims

Another article by Mark Gibbs has been published at Forbes.com discussing some of the skeptical responses to the recent 3rd Party E-Cat test. The title of the article is “Rossi’s A Fraud! No, He’s Not! Yes, He Is! No, He Isn’t!” and it looks at some of the charges leveled at the Rossi and the test by critics. It’s somewhat of a tortured piece. Gibbs states that there is no credible evidence of fraud being involved and he considers it unlikely that the testers were in on a scam, or that Rossi had rigged his premises to give fake indications of excess heat, but he allows that there is an outside possibility that fraud could have taken place. Gibbs says he is more persuaded by the arguments against the E-Cat on the grounds that the rules of science don’t allow for cold fusion — but having said, he says you can’t discount “something interesting” going on given the experimental evidence that has been published over the years. Gibbs postulates four possibilities about the test and gives his opinion of its likelihood: 1. Rossi is a fraud and the testing was a fraud (i.e. the testers were in on the scam) [...]

Rossi & Wikipedia

Of all the media blackout of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat technology, none of the neglect by the media is as damaging or unfair as recent problems with Wikipedia. This online “encyclopedia” is crowdsourced in encyclopedic manner as a reference for those doing research on any given topic. There are often disclaimers on various articles, stating that [...]

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