More on the Partner and E-Cat Plans

Reading Andrea Rossi’s recent comments on the current situation with the turbines and the partner, I have been trying to sort out in my mind what is going on with Leonardo. So I just sent Rossi my current thinking on what is going on. Here are my assumptions and his responses.

Frank Acland
September 19, 2018 at 11:16 AM
Dear Andrea,

It has been interesting to read your comments lately regarding your plans for using a turbine with the E-Cat SK. I think I am beginning to understand the situation a little better, but I would like to see if I am thinking correctly.

Are the following assumptions of mine correct – please correct me if I am wrong.

1. You have developed the E-Cat SK to what you consider to be a point where it is stable enough to be used in a commercial industrial product.

2. Your business/industrial partner agrees with you about 1.

3. The E-Cat SK needs to be combined with a turbine in order to operate in a stable, effective manner.

4. You personally are not an expert in turbines, but your partner is, and has the resources to develop a turbine that will work with the SK.

5. Leonardo and the Partner will work together to build a plant utilizing these turbines.

6. This plant will be built at your Partner’s existing facility.

7. The first plant will be installed at your Partner’s facilities to provide heat and electricity for their own operations.

8. Your presentation in January will be to announce to the world that you have a technology ready for industrialization, and you are ready to start working with prospective customers and making contracts.

Many thanks, and best wishes for your work.

Frank Acland

Andrea Rossi
September 19, 2018 at 11:23 AM
Frank Acland:
1. yes
2. yes
3. not necessarily
4. yes
5. yes
6. yes
7. yes
8. probably
Warm Regards,

So from this, I have to now think that Rossi’s partner is an engineering company, expert in building turbines. Possibly it was the partner who have been pushing the turbine solution, since they can see the possibilities and benefits where Rossi himself may not have been able to. The partner will probably be thinking first and foremost of how the E-Cat can benefit themselves by providing cheap energy for their own uses. and they will probably have been able to work out a very advantageous deal for themselves, and in sales going forward.

Also, although the E-Cat SK may be ready to produce, the turbines may take some time for designing and testing before they are ready to be put into practical action, and to be sold on the market. Rossi says that the SK does not necessarily need to be coupled with a turbine so there may be other plant designs under development. There does seem to be a big workload ahead for this thing to start taking off. I’m still not sure what to expect for the January demonstration.

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DOE Lab Research Provides New Understanding of Inner Workings of Lithium-ion Battery Technology

Thanks to an ECW reader for letting me know about a news release from the US Department of Energy’s SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory provides some interesting information about research that has been done into the inner workings of lithium-ion batteries. New technology has allowed researchers to examine what is going on in these batteries on the nano scale, and has revealed information that was unavailable previously. The researchers believe that new information could lead to better battery technology in the future.

Here is an excerpt from the article:

“Previously, researchers thought that lithium iron phosphate was a one-dimensional conductor, meaning lithium ions are only able to travel in one direction through the bulk of the material, like salmon swimming upstream.

“But while sifting through their data, the researchers noticed that lithium was moving in a completely different direction on the surface of the material than one would expect based on previous models. It was as if someone had tossed a leaf onto the surface of the stream and discovered that the water was flowing in a completely different direction than the swimming salmon.

They worked with Saiful Islam, a chemistry professor at the University of Bath, UK, to develop computer models and simulations of the system. Those revealed that lithium ions moved in two additional directions on the surface of the material, making lithium iron phosphate a three-dimensional conductor.”

The full article can be found here:

Maybe the ‘popcorn effect’ mentioned in the article — where lithium rearranges itself inside the battery and causes failure — can help explain some of the fires that have occurred in some of these batteries. Possibly there is also some relevance to LENR effects in which lithium is one of the materials involved.

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DARPA Funds $1.3 Million Study of Quantized Inertia – Converting Light into Thrust

A professor at the University of Plymouth (UK) will receive a $1.3 million grant from DARPA (United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) to study ‘Quantized Inertia’ which theorizes that light can be converted into thrust.

Dr. Mike McCullough, Lecturer in Geomatics, will lead a team that will develop a fully predictive theory of how matter interacts with light, and then conduct experiments to test the theory. Dr. McCullough thinks it could be possible to develop spacecraft that require no propellant, just a source of electricity.

I am not sure whether this has anything in common with the EmDrive theory, but the goals of propellant-less propulsion certainly sound similar.

An article from the University of Plymouth’s website provides more details here:

Rossi: 40 MW E-Cat Plant to use Multiple Gas Turbines

Andrea Rossi was asked recently on the Journal of Nuclear Physics if he was still working on the jet engines, and he replied, “The work on jet engines is in progress.” Today there was another Q&A on the subject:

September 17, 2018 at 8:44 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Can you tell us if the supply of the 40 MW heat will be generated by means of multiple gas jet kind of turbines?
Thank you if you can answer,

Andrea Rossi
September 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM
Warm Regards,

Perhaps jet turbines are required to get rid of the large amounts of heat generated by the SK E-Cats. Rossi has also stated that the 40 MW plant he is building for a customer will be built and installed in “lots”, in other words will not be all installed at once. So maybe this means that one turbine will be built and installed at a time. Or perhaps a few at a time.

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Rossi on Leonardo’s Partner

After Andrea Rossi and Industrial Heat famously split following the settlement of their litigation, Rossi quite quickly alluded to a new ‘partner’ who was assisting him with his work. He has provided very little information about this partner, or the nature of its relationship with Leonardo, but it seems to be very important in terms of bringing the E-Cat into the commercial real.

I have been asking some questions about this partner as we now seem to be moving into an important phase of the E-Cat’s development. Here are some Q&As from the Journal of Nuclear Physics:

Frank Acland
September 10, 2018 at 10:51 AM
Dear Andrea,

Congratulations on the decision to go with the E-Cat SK for industrialization, and best wishes for success with this new project. Do you now have to find investors to raise funds for the industrialization process?

Andrea Rossi
September 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM
Frank Acland:
We already found the right Partner.
Warm Regards,

Frank Acland
September 14, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Dear Andrea,

You have stated that your partner is mainly an industrial partner. Does this mean that they are helping you to prepare for the mass production of your E-Cat SK reactors?

Andrea Rossi
September 14, 2018 at 10:33 AM
Frank Acland:
Warm Regards,

Frank Acland
September 14, 2018 at 11:38 AM
Dear Andrea,

Thank you for your response about the partner. Can you say in what ways is your partner helping you:

a) Providing expertise of persons with manufacturing experience?
b) Providing building space in which you can build your E-Cats?
c) Providing equipment with which to build the E-Cats?
d) Providing other financial resources to support the industrialization?

Andrea Rossi
September 14, 2018 at 12:46 PM
Frank Acland:
1- yes
2- yes
3- yes
4- yes
Warm Regards,

Of course, this all needs to be confirmed, but if true, it sounds like he is being backed up and supported in many important ways by this partner. He said that they were involved in the recent SK testing and their response was ‘positive’. For a company with significant financial and engineering resources to be on board with manufacturing E-Cats, they have to be convinced it is real and a worthwhile investment. For Rossi, it is ideal not just to have financial resources behind him, but industrial ones too, and not least, a location already in place where they can build his plants.

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This is Not ‘Cold Fusion’ — US NAVSEA Award-Winning Essay on LENR by Michael Ravnitzky Published

Thanks to a reader for sending me a link to the article written by Michael Ravnitzky who works at at the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) in Washington, DC, and who won second prize in NAVSEA’s Emerging Technology Essay Contest. The title of his essay was “Low Energy Nuclear Reactions: A Potential New Source of […]
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Mizuno LENR Laboratory Suffers Severe Damage in Sapporo Earthquake

Jed Rothwell is reporting on Vortex-l and LENR Forum that Japanese LENR researcher’s laboratory in Sapporo has been severely damaged in the 6.7 earthquake that hit the area last week.

He writes:

“Mizuno reports that the building his lab is in was severely damaged by last
week’s earthquake. The whole building appears to be leaning somewhat, about
5 cm by the 7th floor. The emergency exit staircase is severely damaged.

His equipment was damaged as well. Two PCs are broken, and the electron
microscope is probably beyond repair.

He estimates this will take $20,000 to $30,000 to repair and replace
equipment, and probably to move to another location. I do not think he has
that kind of money. He says he cannot see how he will continue. This might
be “checkmate” is how he put it (using the English word).”

Jed states that several people are trying to donate funds to help him get back to work, and will provide more information about that effort when it becomes available.

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The Next E-Cat Phase to Bring Greater Attention and Public Scrutiny.

For many years now Andrea Rossi has been working towards commercialization of the E-Cat. When he introduced his invention with Sergio Focardi in early 2011 he demonstrated a low temperature model which was used in the first shipping container plant that was demonstrated later that year. Soon after that came the ‘Hot Cat’, a higher temperature model of the E-Cat which was the basis of the plant that ran in the 1-year test in Doral, Florida from 2015-2016. And while he was working long hours to keep that plant operating he began work on a new version of the E-Cat which became the plasma-based QX reactor which was introduced at the Stockholm presentation in November 2017. That QX ran at 20 Watts, but has since developed into the E-Cat SK, which Rossi states now is twice the size of the Stockholm model, and is rated at 10 kW.

Now it’s the end of 2018, and Andrea Rossi says now he says he has settled on this particular model of the E-Cat to go to production with. Should we expect Rossi to change his mind again, and come up with yet another iteration of the E-Cat to build, test and develop? We can’t say for sure it won’t happen, but personally I don’t expect it to change now. Rossi is not getting any younger and I sense he feels he has to make a move now if he is to accomplish his goals in the commercial realm within his working lifetime. I think it is now E_Cat SK or bust.

I personally think we now are moving into a new phase of the E-Cat story. For many years now Andrea Rossi has been working solo, or with a very small team of assistants. Most people either haven’t heard of him or if they have, have dismissed him as either delusional or fraudulent — thus his profile has been relatively low.

I believe Rossi is an extremely hardworking and accomplished inventor and engineer, and that the E-Cat as a remarkable device that works very well. However, I don’t think that necessarily guarantees Leonardo Corporation will succeed commercially. If he really does start building and installing E-Cat SK plants, then I expect he is going to get a lot more attention from all kinds of areas. If he is selling energy cheaper than competitors he will certainly get their attention. He will get the attention of potential customers looking to cut their energy bills. He will get the attention of scientists who will try to figure out how he is doing what he is doing and they will want to know if he is still carrying on some kind of fraud. As the word spreads he will get the attention of people in the media, and government who will wonder what this will mean for future energy production. Surely people will be wondering if the E-Cat actually works by a previously unknown method, is it safe? Competitors in the energy industry will certainly be asking this question as they consider what a cheaper alternative will mean for their business.

I can’t predict what will happen going forward, but I think that if the E-Cat plants work well, then there will be a new set of challenges facing Andrea Rossi and Leonardo Corporation, which I would expect they are anticipating. From a business point of view you obviously need attention if you want to make sales, but for many years Rossi has taken great efforts to ensure secrecy surrounding the E-Cat, and has been very successful in this effort so far. With a commercial campaign ahead it is going to be harder for him to work in peace and quiet and avoid a much greater amount of scrutiny.

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Rossi: Decision Made to Start Industrialization With 10 kW SK E-Cats

Andrea Rossi had been reporting recently on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that his team at Leonardo Corporation had been testing two E-Cat SK reactors rated at 10 kW each to see if they would be suitable for building the first industrial E-Cat plants.

Rossi says that last night (Saturday, September 8th 2018) they decided that they have decided to use the SK reactors instead of the smaller 1kW QX E-Cats. He had said that they would run a 10-day test, but it apparently only was six days, having started on Monday.

Rossi had admitted that moving ahead with the E-Cat SK does entail some risk, since it has not been put through the months-long Sigma 5 testing that the smaller QX reactor went through, but it is a risk he is willing to take apparently. He stated
“the Sigma 5 reaches with the Ecat QX helps the trust in the SK version.”

So what happens next? I asked Rossi this question and his answer was simply “industrialization.” As far as when the first plants would be delivered to customers, he wrote to Gerard McEk this: “We will begin to deliver in 2019, surely not in January. By January we would start the production.”

As best as I can understand things, the actual starting of industrial production had been on hold until Leonardo had decided which reactors they would be building. Now that decision has been made, one would expect that they would start to move onto production.

We will have to wait and see how things progress now. The next important public event will be the product introduction of E-Cat products which Rossi has said he hopes to hold in January. I don’t think he will hold that event unless they have had success with the production process by that time.

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Nuclear Reaction from Electrolysis in Li2SO4 Solution in Either H2O or D2O Upon Either Pd or Ni (Axil Axil)

The following comment was posted by Axil Axil:

John C Fisher has done an experiment almost identical to the current JohnyFive experiment.

[Oriani, R.A. and J.C. Fisher. Energetic Charged Particles Produced in the Gas Phase by Electrolysis. in Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion. 2003. Cambridge, MA: This paper was presented atthe 10th International Conference on Cold Fusion.]

It showed that a LENR active agent was lifted in the steam coming from an electrolysis LENR experiment and catalyzed a LENR cluster reaction producing loads of alpha emissions in a spherical distribution eliminating from a central pinpoint location. This reaction was shown using a plastic detector.

This experiment shows what is termed “Strange radiation” and IMHO, the LENR active agent is an Ultra dense material…most likely lithium.

IMHO, the ultra dense lithium is resting on or is trapped in the surface fibers of the paper. It is generating continuous LENR reactions. Holmild sees this behavior in his experiments. This LENR activity of this ultra dense molecule can be increased if an ultraviolet light source is placed on that ultra dense matter (UDM). Any strong UV light source might increase the LENR activity of the UDM. Holmlid says that his florescent lab lights activate his UDM into increase activity.

Shower of etch pits on a detector chip supported in air under a nickel cathode. The width of the image is approximately 2mm. Arrows indicate the directions in which charged particles impinged on the chip. The electrolyte was Li2SO4 in H2O. (The virgin chip was etched before beginning the experiment to reveal pre-existing particle tracks. During the following etch they grew to twice the diameter of the experimental pits and can be distinguished by their large size.)

The pattern of particle emissions from a central point indicate that a singular causative agent is the source of the radiation.

Axil Axil