Gerard McEk sent some interesting questions to Andrea Rossi today, and received the following responses.
December 5, 2018 at 8:24 AM
Just a few questions:
1. Can you tell us if you are already able to produce the ECats automatically? AR: yes.
2. By when do you intend to start production, or has production started already? AR: the production will follow the demand.
3. Will you also produce the ECat controllers in your production plants? AR: yes.
4. I have always thought that the 40 MW unit is a single unit that will produce electricity. Now I understand that there will be multiple smaller units that will be located at different sites. Is the latter the right interpretation? AR: yes.
5. Do they intend to produce electricity with the (collection of) 40 MW unit(s)? AR: this is up to the Client
6. How much percent of the 40 MW units(s) is ready? AR: this information is not public.
Thank you for answering our questions.
Kind regards, Gerard
Rossi here says that they “can” make E-Cats automatically, but it doesn’t sound like they are cranking them out and storing them in anticipation of high demand in the future. It sounds almost like they will be made on a “just-in-time” basis, depending on how orders start coming in. And at this point we don’t have any idea of what demand will be like. There is not much in the way of pre-publicity or advertising at this point. So far, awareness of the E-Cat is basically among the relatively small community of LENR followers, and by word of mouth among those who are close to Andrea Rossi and his current group of clients, which I guess at this point is still very small.
Andrea Rossi continues to provide a few new details regarding his E-Cats. He has stated that the E-Cat SK that is currently heating a factor somewhere in a cooler part of the United States is rated at 27 kW, and is currently running continuously.
One reader of the Journal of Nuclear Physics asked him about the weight of this E-Cat and he responded:
“Without the boiler the Ecat weights 1 kg, the Control Panel 10 kg”
As far as the physical dimensions of the E-Cat SK, Rossi has stated in the past that it is about twice the size of the E-Cat QX model that he demonstrated in Stockholm last November.
In some more recent comments from the JONP, Rossi has written that the client that has ordered 40 MW worth of E-Cat plants, that this 40 MW will not be a single plant, but 40 MW spread out over multiple geographic locations.
When asked about making electricity with the E-Cat, Rossi commented yesterday:
December 2, 2018 at 8:11 PM
Today we make only heat, but soon we will have clients that will couple Ecats with turbines coupled with alternators.
Andrea Rossi has made the following comment in response to a question about whether he thought the presentation on January 31st will satisfy those skeptical of the E-Cat.
December 1, 2018 at 11:21 AM
No, it will not. To avoid disappointments, I want one more time explain what is a commercial presentation: we are not presenting to the scientific community a theory or a prototype to be tested and validated, corroborated by full scientific information. We are presenting a product to sell a service to our actual and potential clients. We have to show that our product make profits.
Our position is very similar to a model that is taken from a completely different world, but helps to understand: observe the Coca Cola policy: they never gave any hint about their industrial secret. I visited the Coca Cola Museum in Atlanta where they conserve in a well guarded safe the secret part of their IP. They advertise Coca Cola not as a food scientifically proven as good, they sell and advertise ( with extremely sophysticated means ) the Coca Cola product as a good drink that gives a good taste to their Customers at a price accessible to everybody. This is exactly what we are going to do: give the taste of the profits that will be generated by the use of the Ecat. This will disappoint them who will look for scientific information, but our target of the presentation are the Clients. By the way, they will not be going to buy the Ecat, but just to buy the heat she will generate. We will offer the image of the Ecat SK in operation, will show how much energy we are consuming, it will be, I think, very interesting, but, I promise, disappointing for anybody that looks for information to compete.
Coke’s trade secret is often cited as being somewhat analogous to Rossi’s attitude towards his IP. Rossi’s plan is to sell a good energy source that satisfies the customer’s need for energy at a price accessible to them, and to do this he doesn’t need to provide customers with hidden ingredients that are producing the heat. However the analogy is not perfect, because anyone can buy a bottle of Coca-Cola and spend time and money to analyze the makeup of the drink using sophisticated equipment to try and discover the secrets of its makeup, and make a product like Pepsi, which may not be a perfect replication of Coke, but close enough for someone like me. (I can’t tell the difference between the two). Rossi is doing all he can to try and prevent any such analysis from taking place by putting physical and digital barriers in place.
Thanks to Artefact for posting a link to a new video published today by the SAFIRE Project which helps give more context to the earlier video posted here.
In this video they discuss some of the experimental processes they use, and explain more about various aspects of plasma engine they are running experiments in.
At one point one of the team members explains what they say they discovered was the reason for the very high energy readings they had been seeing in the chamber:
The discharge in the chamber is slowing down the passage of ultraviolet light, so optical light just goes straight through, no problem, but there’s a particular frequency – 10 electron volt which is very high energy ultraviolet light that gets passed on very slowly from atom to atom. Even though it’s not a very dense plasma, the cross-section is so high that a photon is emitted and immediately absorbed by another hydrogen atom. Which means if you are an ultraviolet photon, it takes you 60 thousand times longer to get out of our chamber than if you are an optical photon. That sort of slowdown in the velocity of light is something that is often attributed to what we think we know about the sun, but to see it in our chamber here is a pretty exciting result and the amount of energy that is stored – if you remember those discharges – you have to think about those layers, the discharge, that’s what your eye is seeing, what our eyes can’t see is this hidden, or trapped, or stored energy, very high frequency energy that’s just waiting there in the plasma for something like an unsuspecting piece of equipment to encounter it and then destroy it.
Thanks to Gato for providing a link to a video of Montgomery Childs of the SAFIRE project talking to a group at the Electric Universe International Conference held in Somerset, UK in July of 2018. Below are some notes and quotes I have taken from the presentation which is about 35 minutes long.
He summarizes the Electric Universe model in this way:
“Charged matter affecting matter of a different electrical potential”.
“SAFIRE is more like sailing, in that we are looking into the way that nature does things. We are not trying to force the plasma phenomena”
“We’re not trying to get the plasma to organize, but it likes to become organized under certain conditions.”
There is a video at point 24:30 where Childs shows the plasma. He says “it likes to form these tufts, we don’t understand them, but we’re looking at them, they become organized. Their fields are uniform and they like to be separated.”
“Some of the energy and the density that we have now are comparable to what we see in the sun, it’s pretty amazing.”
“This is controversial, I can’t really talk too much at this time yet, how we got this, but what I can say, if some of you are familiar with mass spectroscopy or digital gas analyzers, you’ll know what you’re looking at here; We started off with a chamber of pure hydrogen and we baked it out for a couple of days. Then what happened is, the chamber’s clean it’s purged, we put hydrogen in. Mass spec is saying you have pure hydrogen in the chamber, 100 per cent. We thought this is great . . . We introduced another gas, we got double layers formed. We let it sit in there and bake for a few hours, it was extremely stable . . . We added another gas, the moment the double layers disappeared and we got this [shows mass spectrometer reading] . . . Hydrogen dropped down from 100 per cent to 39 per cent and all these other elements formed.”
He mentions barium and titanium, they don’t know why they formed.
He then shows video of ‘double layers’ forming at about 27:30, then he shows how the energy suddenly concentrates. Slide states: “We were not trying to trap high energy photons and electrons comparable to the sun’s photosphere … but it does.”
Then he shows another video of something that he says has been patented: he states “This is a hollow anode, I will tell you that I’m actually putting deuterium and hydrogen as a mix through the core of the anode.”
“Some of you that are into cold fusion have a hard time getting atomic hydrogen. SAFIRE produces copius amounts of it”
“What we do is we put hydrogen into the hollow anode and we have a special material that the anode is made out of, it dissociates the H2 to H, and because it is positively charged we strip the electron and we actually have protons migrating from off the surface of the anode into the atmosphere”
Here is a very interesting comment on the Journal of Nucelar Physics from Andrea Rossi regarding the relationship between the E-Cat and his health in response to questions from Brokeeper.
2- Also, could you shed some light on how your recent illness may have been affected by the yearlong test inside the container? Some are concerned it may be due to some ‘Strange Radiation’. I am very glad to hear you are recovering.
Thank you. God be with you.
November 14, 2018 at 10:03 AM
2- no, we will not give any particular related to the factory
3- during the year long test in Doral I covered the shift from 5 PM through 10 A.M. and during the night, when I was alone, many times I opened the shielding to look inside to understand things. The Ecat does nor have emissions of ionizing radiations out of the Ecat body, but the inspection I made “open heart” were a risk and I knew it, but these inspections have allowed me to understand important things and this knowledge has born the QX and the SK versions of the Ecat. I spent a dear price in terms of health, but I could work very well and now I am healed. Also the voice returned. The fury to know I had was stronger than the good sense to be prudent, also because I was alone, the risks were all upon me. The Ecat SK you will see on Jan 31st is the son of this decision.
So Andrea Rossi’s curiosity may have had a serious personal cost, even though he credits his “open heart” inspections with important information connected with the development of his invention. Rossi again admits that there is radiation inside the E-Cat, and harmful radiation at that, although not enough to kill him outright — so the theme of Strange Radiation again appears in the LENR story.
I have been asking Andrea Rossi some questions regarding the power outlet that can operate the 20 kW E-Cat SK reactor:
November 4, 2018 at 7:43 PM
Does the controller to the E-Cat SK plug into a regular AC wall socket, or is a different kind of connection required?
November 5, 2018 at 12:57 AM
It ia a regular plug-in outlet.
November 5, 2018 at 12:31 PM
Thank you for your answer,
1. So by a “regular plug-in outlet”, you mean a regular domestic socket you would use for a computer, TV, etc.
2. Would any regular domestic socket in the USA, Europe, Asia, etc. (they differ slightly in voltage and amps depending on country) be able to operate a single 20 kW E-Cat SK?
3. Would the E-Cat SK be able to operate with AC at either 50 or 60 Hz?
2- yes, it is very easy to convert
3- we make the control panels fit for the voltage and frequency they have to operate with
I think this is quite useful and potentially important information. We know that in previous demonstrations there have been questions about the measurement of input power. However if the E-Cat SK is plugged into a regular AC power outlet, even if Rossi does not provide an exact measurement of input power going into the controller, we will know the maximum possible amount of power in because AC power outlets are standardized.
In the USA, the standard residential circuits are either 15 or 20 amps at 110 volts. So the maximum load that can be put on a single power outlet is 2400 W. Beyond that, the circuit breaker will trip and you have no power. If the E-Cat can be demonstrated to be operating at 20 kW, and it is shown to be plugged into a standard power outlet and it is not tripping the circuit breaker, then it will be clearly running at ‘overunity’ — the COP would be at least close to 10.
So this will be something to look for at the January demonstration: what is the E-Cat plugged into, and what is the maximum possible load it can handle — plus, can Rossi actually demonstrate that the SK is running at 20 kW. So far he has said that at the presentation he will be using the E-Cat to heat water, and that he will be showing the temperature of the water at both the input and the output.
The following article has been submitted by Lamaan Ball
Low Energy Nuclear Reactions – Is the mechanism simple electro magnetic resonance?
For some years now I have followed the claims of Cold Fusion given by Pons and Fleischmann. As a student of physics, this potential source of energy was exciting and continues to be so. It seems to most that this was disproved many years ago, but to those paying attention, there have been many efforts to reproduce the effects seen and some claim quite a lot of success.
The closest to getting a commercial product seems to be Andrea Rossi, and some of his work has been reproduced. Different theories try to explain how this works. Here I will attempt to explain how I think it happens. I will try to keep the explanation simple enough for anyone to understand.
When a flute player blows across the hole, waves are formed inside the flute of air pressure dependent on the length of the flute. The frequency depends on the dimensions of the space it bounces around and whether or not a note comes out depends on blowing fast enough to overcome the loss of energy of the sound escaping. In this action we turn white noise (blowing) into very specific frequencies of sound. This is the process of resonance.
Similar mechanisms work with other kinds of waves. In particular, electric fields in conducting materials could be made to resonate. If we take a conducting stick of metal and subject it to an electric or magnetic field pulse, a wave will bounce back and forth in the metal travelling at or close to the speed of light. Repeating the pulses at a rate before this wave decays will produce a ‘ringing’ of the metal at its resonant frequencies determined by its dimensions. For example, a high frequency electro-magnetic field pulsing on a metal rod of about 12 cm, should produce electro-magnetic field waves inside the metal of a similar length as a microwave oven. This could be used to provide a highly efficient way to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen gasses. It is not free energy in this instance but it might be a very efficient way to store energy as hydrogen and oxygen gasses that when recombined could power a car.
What appears to be happening are isotope changes, with neutrons migrating from lithium into nickel. To free a lithium neutron would take energy at least equal to the change in binding energy for a lithium atom to change from Li7 to Li6, Li7 has more binding energy of neutrons than Li6. Working out how much energy is needed to free a neutron will give us the energy of a photon needed to do it. The photon would come from a resonating electro-magnetic wave. Knowing the photon energy will tell us its frequency. This will tell us the size of the distance needed for resonances. Skip the next paragraph if you want to avoid the mathematics.
Li7 has a binding energy per nucleon of 5.60629 MeV giving it a total binding energy of 39.244037MeV. Li6 has a binding energy per nucleon of 5.332345Mev giving it a total binding energy of 31.99407Mev. If we want a reaction of Li7 + gamma -> Li6 + free neutron, then the photon (gamma) must provide the energy difference. This is 39.244037MeV – 31.99407Mev = 7.249967MeV. This gives us the frequency by E=hf for a photon. So the energy in Joules (SI units) is E=7.249967MeV x 1.60E-13J/MeV = 1.16E-12 Joules, which give us f=1.16E-12/6.63E-34 = 1.75E+21Hz. To get the resonant distance needed for such a photon, we can say that the speed of the wave is close to the speed of light. The time of one oscillation will give us a distance for a resonance mode. This is then 1/f = 5.70E-22 seconds. How far does light travel in this time? d=ct where d is distance and c is the speed of light and t is time. This gives us a distance of 3E+8 x 5.7E-22 = 1.7E-13 metres.
This distance is somewhere between the typical size of atoms at about 1E-10 metres and atomic nuclei at about 1E-15 metres. So what is the resonance we could get? It turns out that when atoms form ionic crystals the electron from one atom is essentially moved to the other atom making it into a cation. This gives us what is called an ionic atom radius. For hydrogen that has only one electron, when it is bound in a solid such as a hydride its size is 1.2E-12 metres which is in spitting distance of our distance needed for a resonance. Resonances over this distance could be built up with electro-magnetic noise and regular electro-magnetic pulses to stop their decay like blowing on a flute produces a note. In fact it produces many notes. The resonant frequencies are all the multiples of half a wavelength so although the main energy of the resonant waves has frequency determined by half the distance, other frequencies are produced for waves at fractions of the length of the resonant distances such as 1/2 the distance, 1/4 the distance, 1/8 the distance. A resonance at 1/8th the ionic hydrogen size would be just about right size to create photons that could release neutrons from Li7.
If this slow neutron was absorbed by Ni58 the binding energy it would gain is 59 x 8.73657 – 58 x 8.732041 = 8.999Mev meaning for each atom isotope transformation by this mechanism we have a gain of energy
Li7 + Ni58 => Li6 + Ni59 + 1.75 MeV
For gram of fuel this yields approx. (6.02214179E+23)/65 x 1.75 x 1.16E-12MeV/J = 18,807,612,052J/g which is 18TJ/Kg this compares to an energy density of diesel fuel of 48 MJ/Kg
This means that a teaspoon of fuel could run your car for a year.
Recently Andrea Rossi announced that the upcoming E-Cat presentation, now scheduled for January 31, 2019 would be an internet-only event, not a live event where guests could be present, as was the case at the event in Stockholm November 2017. His reasoning was that it would be very difficult find a public venue where he would be permitted to operate his E-Cat SK which now is apparently rated at 10 kW (as opposed to 20 W in Stockholm).
This has been quite a disappointment for many people, especially those who had previously received invitations to attend. I contacted Andrea Rossi and told him I was very interested in this presentation and I would like to be there to do some in-depth reporting for E-Cat World. He has told me that I am invited to attend. I don’t know yet exactly where the presentation will take place but was told it would probably be in the Miami area.
I am still not sure quite what to expect at the presentation. Rossi has said recently that “we will show in internet videos of the Ecat SK in operation and we will answer publicly all the questions we will receive from the attendants in internet.”
I will of course have my own questions and hope to have a chance to talk with not only Andrea Rossi, but others who might be working with him. I will be there to learn as much as I can, and take as many pictures and videos as I can. I will try to report live on this site about what is going on, and should be able to respond to questions sent to me directly.
If anyone would like to help support my trip financially, I would be most grateful for it. Travel and lodging will be the main expenses. I will probably be staying on site for 3 days and nights. My Paypal address is email@example.com. Please get in touch if you have any questions and thanks in advance for any help!
UPDATE: Oct 28, 2018: Thanks to the support from readers here, I have enough funds raised to cover the expenses for the trip. Flight is booked, along with accommodation. The date of January 31st, 2019 for the presentation has been confirmed, the location was a surprise to me (that’s all I can say at the moment.) I really appreciate the support and I will do the best I can to provide good reporting for readers here.
I recently sent some questions to Russian LENR researcher Alexander Parkhomov regarding his reports that were recently presented at the conference in Sochi Russia.
Recently Bob Greenyer has posted an interesting video of the “Woodpecker” device that Dr. Parkhomov reported about at the conference as being a source of “strange radiation” and the in the first question he describes how it is constructed.
1) Will you release a written paper with full construction details for your Ni-H reactor and the “woodpecker” to help replicators?
AP: Any experimenter can create a “woodpecker” device. You need a horizontal flat electrode immersed in water or another liquid, and a vertical electrode in the form of a thin rod. The vertical electrode is connected to an electromagnet, which is powered by a current, the circuit of which is closed through the electrodes. When the electrodes are connected, the electromagnet pulls up the vertical electrode, the circuit opens, after which the vertical electrode falls on the horizontal one. The chain closes again, the cycle repeats. In my devices, the voltage is up to 100V, the current is several A.
2) When the rate of strange radiation track production from the Ni-H reactor drops, does the quantity of excess heat produced drop as well? How do they seem to be correlated?
AP: The speed of the appearance of tracks for some unknown reason varies greatly, even at a constant reactor power. It is not possible to investigate the correlation between excess power and the rate of appearance of tracks.
3) When your fuel was “exhausted” and excess heat production ceased, did the emission of strange radiation also stop?
AP: We did not take measurements when the reactor was exhausted.
4) Does the application of a magnetic field (from a permanent magnet for example) have an effect on the rate of strange radiation production from the Ni-H reactor? What about the woodpecker?
AP: We applied the magnetic field, but we cannot draw a reliable conclusion about its influence because of the very high variability of the rate of appearance of the tracks.
5) Kenneth R. Shoulder’s was able to manipulate the path of EVOs utilizing electrostatic fields. What effect do electrostatic fields have on the strange radiation you are producing?
AP: The influence of the electric field is a very interesting problem. But so far we have not received results in this direction.
6) Have you detected differently charged (electrostatically or magnetically) strange radiation particles coming from your devices?
AP: This question requires experimental research.
7) One idea that has been suggested is that surrounding the reactor core of your device with an external and secondary fuel could increase the COP. Basically, instead of escaping into the environment, the strange radiation would be triggering additional nuclear reactions. What are your thoughts on this possibility and what secondary fuels
would you consider as likely candidates?
AP: This idea emerges from experimental results. The candidate for secondary fuel may be, for example, aluminum, which is part of corundum tubes.
8) What do you think a strange radiation particle is composed of?
AP: I do not think that there are enough experimental results to formulate a reasonable hypothesis.
9) How do the rates of strange radiation production from the Ni-H reactor and the woodpecker compare: does one produce a greater quantity of strange radiation than the other?
AP: It is difficult to make a comparison due to the very large variability of results.
10) Bob Greenyer mentioned that you showed him an image of a round spherical reactor utilizing nickel electrodes that produced a glow discharge plasma between themselves to produce a COP of 3 or higher. Can you tell us some more about this device?
AP: In the flask were placed two tungsten tubes filled with nickel powder. Nickel was saturated with hydrogen at a pressure close to atmospheric. Then the hydrogen pressure decreased to 0.1 Torr and a voltage of 1000 V, 50 Hz was applied. A discharge ignited in the gas, the electrodes became hot, and excess heat appeared. Unfortunately, the electrodes quickly collapsed due to very high temperatures.
11) When the Ni-H or woodpecker devices are operational and emitting strange radiation, what safety precautions do you take?
AP: We try to be far away.
12) What happens if you add a percentage of lithium to the fuel of the NiH reactor? What is the result in terms of excess heat and strange radiation?
AP: Metallic lithium poisons the reactor.
13) Your response to the last question is that metallic lithium poisons the reactor. Does this mean that it breaks the reactor, or that the LENR reactions stop when metallic lithium is used. I recall in the past that you have used LiAlH4, and this produced excess heat. Maybe metallic lithium behaves differently?
AP: LiAlH4 at a temperature of 180-200 ° C is decomposed into hydrogen and LiH. With further heating at temperatures above 300 ° C, hydrogen dissolves in nickel. Large surface of nickel powder supports to this process . If lithium metal is contained in the fuel mixture, it is melted at 180 ° C and absorbed by nickel powder. In this case, the porous structure of nickel is disturbed, as a result of which the saturation of nickel with hydrogen becomes difficult.