The presentation of the E-Cat QX in Stockholm last week has been the topic of a great deal of discussion and scrutiny by people following the LENR story. From everything I have read, and people I have spoken with I would say that from the point of view of observers from the outside (i.e. the peanut gallery) that the event has not changed the opinion about the E-Cat a great deal, and one question that has been asked repeatedly is, what was the purpose of putting on such an event?
It was not a product demonstration, since there is no product to demonstrate yet; it was not a scientific presentation, as it was run and controlled by the inventor, Andrea Rossi. To me, it seems that it was is Rossi letting people know that he has an energy production process that works, and that he was open to do business with — at the same (as usual) keeping the details of how he does what he does as secret as possible.
Perhaps the most important part of the event for Rossi were the discussions that took place afterwards. Rossi explained to the attendees that he would be available to meet with people who wanted to talk with him privately in a room at the IVA conference center following the presentation. According to Alan Smith, who attended the presentation, he was still occupied in private meetings four hours after the public meeting concluded.
Rossi has stated on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: “Several days after the Stockholm demo we made a very important agreement, that will make faster the start of a massive industrial production. These few days have been momentous.” I asked him if this agreement was the direct result of the Stockholm presentation and he responded:
November 30, 2017 at 2:05 AM
It has been a direct result of the Stockolm event: it has been attended by very high level persons, either from the scientific and the industrial point: the IVA conference room acted just like a reactor containing strongly reactive elements…
Rossi of course won’t provide us with details of the nature of any agreement, or who he has spoken with, so it is still hard for us outsiders to gauge the significance of the Stockholm event until we find evidence of what many LENR followers are hoping for: LENR products working in the real world.
The following announcement comes from the Energy 2.0 Society’s website.
The Energy 2.0 Society will be holding a webcast on Saturday, December 9th with Andrea Rossi as guest.
This will be an opportunity for us to discuss with Dr. Rossi the recent presentation of the E-Cat QX in Stockholm and other aspects of his work.
The webcast will be broadcast live on YouTube starting at 11:00 a.m. US Central time. The link to access the webcast will be posted shortly before the meeting begins on this page: http://energy2point0.org/
People who would like to suggest topics and questions for the Energy 2.0 Society to cover in the webcast may do so via email to: email@example.com
As many of you are aware now, this site, e-catworld.com, has been delisted from the Google search engine. More details about this situation can be found here.
The upcoming demonstration of the E-Cat QX reactor on November 24th is an extremely important event in the long-running E-Cat story, and because I think it deserves the widest possible coverage (including being searchable on the Google search platform), I have decided to move all coverage of the upcoming E-Cat QX demo event to a new website: ecatworld.org.
e-catworld.com will remain as it is, nothing will change here. I will include prominent notices on this site to remind people to move over to ecatworld.org website. The new site looks a bit different from this one but I hope it will be acceptable in functionality, and I hope to improve it as time goes on.
I have made a request to Google for re-instatement of e-catworld.com on the Google search engine, but have no idea of how long that appeal process will take, so rather than remaining invisible to Google for an unknown amount of time, I have made this decision. Of course it is not my preferred course of action, but it’s the best solution I could come up with in a short amount of time. If the appeal is successful then things can get back to normal.
Thanks very much to all the readers for your continued interest and support. I look forward to the coming days.
I think it is clear now that Andrea Rossi will be holding a demonstration of the E-Cat QX in November. I know it’s an event that many readers here have been anticipating for many months now, and I expect there will be a lot of interest among readers here.
Dr. Mike has given some good suggestions in his recent article anticipating the Rossi demo, and I thought it might be useful to put up a dedicated thread where people could post what they would like to see at the E-Cat presentation. I will let AR know about the thread and invite him to read it, perhaps there will be items posted that he can consider.
Probably there will be suggestions that he will not be able to, or not wish to do, but it will be an opportunity to provide some some input for his consideration.
I think we should be realistic in our expectations, and suggestions. There had been a lot of discussion lately about combining the E-Cat with engines as a means of generating electricity or driving vehicles, but I don’t think we’ll be seeing any of those things at the presentation. On the Journal of Nuclear Physics yesterday, Rossi made this comment:
October 30, 2017 at 3:21 PM
Sorry, but we are making an R&D on the Stirling engines that is too premature for what you say.
The scope of the demo is to introduce the E-Cat QX as a heat maker, not to show particular applications that at the moment are not ready.
Rossi had provided few details about the setup he will be using, but has said he will be using water (or some kind of fluid) calorimetry to measure the amount of energy produced by the E-Cat. Presumably there will be a means of measuring the energy input. Beyond that I don’t really know what to expect. So if you have ideas that you think might be useful which are within the scope of what AR has outlined, feel free to share them here, and I will bring them to Rossi’s attention.
In recent weeks Andrea Rossi has started to comment quite frequently about a new goal he has for the E-Cat: to build an E-Cat powered engine within one year.
As is usual with Rossi, we get few details. Being curious, I put a question to him about this topic today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:
October 27, 2017 at 8:20 AM
The engine you want to build within a year, would it be for cars, trucks, trains, boats, planes, or something else (if so, what)?
October 27, 2017 at 8:38 AM
We are thinking to an engine that could be duly adapted to all the cathegories you cited, like the gas engines universally diffused.
This sounds extremely ambitious. For many years Rossi has stated that it would take decades to get the E-Cat approved for working for automobiles, and seemed to be concentrating on making heat for industrial processes. Now his goals sound different — perhaps the change in thinking is influenced by the new partner he says he is now working with — perhaps the partner is involved in making engines.
Rossi did provide one small detail on how the the engine might work today:
October 26, 2017 at 10:45 PM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
I suppose in a gas turbine the sole area where the E-Cat can be inserted is after the compressor, correct?
October 27, 2017 at 6:40 AM
Yes, where are the burners.
In the last interview I did with Rossi he said that the temperature of the new E-Cat QX reactor reaches is the same as burners in gas turbines, so it sounds like he is thinking along the lines of replacing fuel combustion with E-Cat reactors. I would guess that there would be big engineering issues involved in pulling this all together, but if you have a heat source that produces the temperatures that Rossi claims, using tiny amounts of input energy and barely any fuel, then it would seem to be a challenge worth pursuing.
We have been hearing for quite some time now from Andrea Rossi about a planned presentation of the E-Cat QX, and from everything that has been said, it should be happening within the next few weeks. The exact date has not yet been announced; however, Rossi has confirmed a number of times that it will be in November, most recently on October 20th he wrote: “Yes, I confirm November. Not all the invitations have been made yet.”
A lot of details are being kept under wraps, such as the actual date and location, but there have been some comments from the JONP that can give us some hints of what to expect. Rossi has said that there will be around forty persons who will be invited to the demonstration. When asked about how his fans would be able to see the presentation Rossi stated “it will be in direct streaming”, which I understand to mean it will be video streamed via the Internet.
Today on the JONP he answered a few more questions:
October 21, 2017 at 2:04 PM
Good luck for you and your team of course.
Please allow the follwing questions on the upcoming demo:
1.) Will a third party participate?
2.) Will You be able to convince the skeptics, as far as you believe today?
3.) Will it in your opinion change the LENR recognition in the media?
4.) Is Magnus Holm still on board?
October 21, 2017 at 4:33 PM
2- I am an industrialist, not a phylosopher
3- I do not know
4- Yes, of course, as well as all the great Team of Hydrofusion
To me, it sounds like this will be the most important public presentation of the E-Cat to date. The last similar event he held of this kind was in October of 2011, when he presented his first 1 MW plant, but that was more of a private affair for invited guests only. This time it seems like his purpose is to introduced the E-Cat QX to the world, perhaps with the intention of generating business interest.
So while there are a lot of unknowns, it does sound like the event is happening, and it’s not too far off now. We should be staying tuned for more information!
The authors of the Lugano report have been quiet for a number of years now regarding their report of the E-Cat that Industrial Heat sent them in 2014 for testing. A number of questions and critiques have been raised about the report, but no responses have been made publicly by the authors.
From what I have been able to learn, the authors of the Lugano report (or at least some of them) decided that in an attempt to confirm their first report, they would attempt to replicate the Lugano reactor themselves by building their own.
Today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, Andrea Rossi has confirmed this. He says he knows the results they have obtained, but cannot reveal those results until they decide to publish. Here is the question about it on the JONP, and his full comment.
October 11, 2017 at 5:33 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Still about the replication made by the Professors of Uppsala: you said you can’t comment before they publish a report, but do you know the results of their trial to replicate the results of Lugano by themselves in a laboratory of the University of Uppsala?
Thank you if you can answer
October 11, 2017 at 6:57 AM
Obviously I know the results, I have been informed about them by the Professors under NDA, but I cannot talk of them before they will publish a report, if ever, since they worked with the funding of a third party that wanted to know if the Rossi Effect exists beyond any doubt.
For this reason, they reproduced the reactor in the laboratories of the Uppsala University and followed the instructions contained in my patent. They wanted to avoid the complications generated by the infrared temperature measurement and measured the energy produced by simple calorimetry, by means of a heat exchanger and with liquid water.
I know the measurements have been very conservative, always considering only the lower values of the margin of error of the instrumentation.
I think I can say all this, because obvious.
I cannot absolutely add any further information. I will be able to comment the results only after such results will have been made public.
So at this point we don’t know when, or even if the Lugano authors will publish. I think they will want to make sure that before they do, they are absolutely certain of their results.
Thanks to Jean Yves Metivier for a pointed question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today. Andrea Rossi has been regularly saying in response to requests for updates something like “we’re on the way to Sigma 5”. Jean Yves was not satisfied with that reply and wrote this:
Jean Yves Metivier
October 5, 2017 at 7:10 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Your sigma 5 quest is interesting, but your answer to JPR is pointless.
What is your final goal, is it related to how much cycles you do, how many days without failures, or how many Watts without interruptions?
How far are you from the goal in percentage?
The answers to these questions will give the Readers a feel of your progress.
Keep it up!
October 5, 2017 at 1:25 PM
Jean Yves Motivier:
The final goal is related to how many hours without failures.
We are very close to the target, I’d say we are around 95%.
Thank you for your attention to our work,
So there’s a little bit more detail regarding the whole Sigma 5 thing. I’m not sure exactly when Rossi started this Sigma 5 campaign, but I think it has been close to a year. If a reactor running reliably for that long with no refueling at 2000+ degrees C with tiny amounts of electrical input can be verified, then I guess any partner he would be very impressed. I feel pretty confident now that the November demo is going to happen, and so I hope we get a much clearer picture about what the E-Cat QX is capable of quite soon.
Andrea Rossi has made some comments on the Journal of Nuclear Physics recently that seem to indicate that the upcoming test he has been planning for will not now be held in October, but rather November. Here’s the latest Q&As on the topic from the Journal of Nuclear Physics.
September 23, 2017 at 2:57 PM
Dr Andrea Rossi,
How much are the probabilities you will make the presentation of the Ecat QX before November 2017?
September 23, 2017 at 4:12 PM
The probabilities that we will present the E-Cat QX before the end of November 2017 are 100%.
September 24, 2017 at 9:33 PM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Please confirm once and forever that the presentation of the Ecat QX will be made not later than November 2017, with 100% of probabilities!
September 25, 2017 at 7:49 AM
If there is indeed a delay, I’m not terribly surprised — there always seems to be delays of one kind of another in this story. Rossi was saying for some time that the presentation would be held near the end of October, if it’s bumped to November I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, however we would all prefer new information to be provided sooner rather than later — but I think we’re pretty good at waiting.