Rossi on E-Cat’s SKL Energy Gain: Zero Point Energy Transfers Energy to Electrons ‘Not in Phase’

Here’s an interesting exchange on the Journal of Nuclear Physics regarding the theory behind the excess energy produced by the E-Cat. Since Andrea Rossi has now rejected the idea that the E-Cat is a LENR device, he has other ideas.

Physicist
December 15, 2020 at 4:01 AM
Dr Rossi,
How does your theoretical hypothesis on
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
to explain the appearence of anomalous energy, if you exclude the LENR ?

Andrea Rossi
December 15, 2020 at 5:30 AM
Physicist:
During our experiments we found the formation of charge clusters that have a density that cannot be easily explained inside the usual paradigms. To understand this phenomenon it is essential to overcome the paradigm according to which elementary particles are massive point-like objects, accepting instead the concept of a pure electromagnetic origin of the matter.
Not to mention the fact that from a point-like model of the electron would derive an infinite electric field.
The formation of clusters of electrons in phase causes a lower entropy and the exploiting of the zero-point energy, with transfer of energy to the electrons not in phase. We are working on the study of this mechanism and on an integration of the paper you cited, updating it with the discoveries we made in the last two years of experimentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Andrea Rossi has stated recently that he is continuing to work on the theoretical as well as the practical side of the E-Cat, and from this and other comments it sounds like an update to his theory paper is in the works.

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Rossi: Magnetic Interactions are Among Long Range Interactions in E-Cat SKL Theory

Today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, Andrea Rossi answered a question regarding whether magnetic interactions are among the long range interactions discussed in his theory.

Rossi’s response:

Andrea Rossi
December 12, 2020 at 12:13 PM
Elsa Wahlstrom:
Yes. About this issue, I found extremely interesting the paper of Prof Hanno Essen I read recently:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/334679765_magnetic_energy_superconductivity_and_dark_matter
In this paper Prof Essen emphasizes the importance of long range magnetic interactions in systems where a large number of charged particles are involved.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

The paper by is titled: Magnetic Energy, Superconductivity, and Dark Matter.
Published July 2019
Hanno Essén isassociate professor of theoretical physics the KTH Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden.

Here is the abstract of Dr. Essén’s paper:

Magnetism due to the translational motion of charge, as opposed to the ordering of dipoles, is not well understood. The Coulomb interaction is used universally in atomic, molecular and solid state physics, but its natural extension when going to higher accuracy, the magnetic Darwin-Breit interaction, is not. This interaction is a velocity dependent long range interaction and as such unfamiliar to the majority of theoreticians. The (v/c)2dependence makes it at most a perturbation in few-body systems, but does not stop it from becoming potentially important as the number of particles increase. For systems where particle velocities are correlated over larger distances this interaction is shown to have major consequences. Based on these findings I suggest that this interaction is responsible for superconductivity and, on an interstellar scale, for the missing dark matter.

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Rossi: E-Cat SKL Evolution from LENR

In this Q&A on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, Andrea Rossi states again that the current E-Cat SKL reactor is not based on LENR, but he does not deny that old versions of the E-Cat were LENR systems.

Brice
December 8, 2020 at 2:02 PM
Dear Dr. Rossi,

You told that the Rossi effect is not a LENR based system. Is this also true for your previous reactors? Does this mean that there were no transmutations and no thermalisation of radiation? And what about the Lugano test reports? Does it also mean that the experiments of Prof. Parkomov are completely different from yours? Or are there crucial links with your effect and LENR, both still use nickel, hydrogen… This is confusing, can you explain?

Andrea Rossi
December 8, 2020 at 6:39 PM
Brice:
What I meant is that the Ecat SKL does not belong to the field of the LENR. Our theoretical hypothesis has changed, due to the evolution of the Ecat and to the completely different mechanisms that have been born . What we thought in past was coherent with what we experimented and did in past.
We made an enormous work in these last two years, the Ecat SKL has the roots in what we made in past as well as an electric car like the last model of the Mercedes AMC has roots in the Mercedes Benz of 1930. The amount of work we made is enormous, we never stopped a single day to work very hard in our laboratories and every single day we added knowledge, working, studying and experimenting in laboratory and on the working plants. We accumulated thousands of pages of reports and calculations. Read the first paper I wrote with Prof Sergio Focardi in 2010 and compare it to my last paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
and you will get an idea of what happened. This is not confusion: this is evolution with revolutionary peaks.
I hear that many say if we did not yet make a presentation of a model for sale in ten years, means we have nothing. Who says so has not the slightest idea on the monumental work we made and we are making.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

He states here that the whole theoretical hypothesis has changed, and is apparently guiding the development of improved working systems quite well. Maybe the ‘revolutionary peaks’ he describes were insights or breakthroughs that opened a new door of understanding, and perhaps LENR is not what at first appearance what it appeared to be.

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Rossi and Team ‘Constructing Industrial Plant’ for 2021 Presentation

I asked Andrea Rossi a question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics yesterday about the current activities of himself and his team.

Frank Acland
December 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM
Dear Andrea,

What is taking most of you and your team’s time and attention in these days?

Andrea Rossi
December 7, 2020 at 3:28 AM
Frank Acland:
The construction of the industrial plant to be presented within the next year in operation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

I think this response gives us an idea of what to expect when Rossi makes the presentation he has promised for next year. Rossi has a tendency to want to go big when it comes to the E-Cat. In 2011 the first E-Cat he made for the public presentation was a 1 MW thermal plant, and when he did the year-long test in Doral, Florida it was also a 1 MW plant.

If he wanted to demonstrate a working E-Cat to the world, I don’t think it would need to be a big industrial model, but maybe he feels it would be more effective to show something that could immediately be useful to industrial customers, to kickstart the commercialization.

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Will the Grid be Powered by E-Cats?

Many of us are very curious about the companies that Andrea Ross/Leonard Corporation is working with at the moment. Rossi has stated that he is working with multiple companies, but has not revealed the names of any of them yet. He has also stated that the first products will be for industrial, rather than household use.

There have been some questions posed on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about some of the industries he is working with, and from some of his respones, it appears that some of his potential customers are either power stations, or companies that provide generation equipment for the electrical grid.

Calle H
December 1, 2020 at 9:02 AM
Dear Andrea,

May I ask a follow-up question to the questions raised by Gerard McEk. You kindly indicated that the first E-Cat application would be 1. Electric energy supply for industrial use. Does that mean that the E-Cat electric energy

A. will be consumed in the particular industry where the E-Cat is installed
B. will be sold the grid (the industry is a power station)

Andrea Rossi
December 1, 2020 at 9:41 AM
Calle H:
Both
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Frank Acland

December 3, 2020 at 8:43 AM
Dear Andrea,

Are you working with companies that are involved in generating electricity for the grid?

Andrea Rossi
December 3, 2020 at 9:24 AM
Frank Acland:
Yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.

If the E-Cat SKL can generate electricity cleanly, efficiently and reliably, with high power density, it will be seen by many as a very attractive alternative to all the current sources of energy that currently power the grid. With so many policy makers trying to wean the world off fossil fuels, if E-Cat generators appear on the scene it might be the obvious way to rapidly transition to zero-carbon electrical grid.

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Rossi: Progress on E-Cat SKL “Excellent”

There’s an encouraging comment by Andrea Rossi on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today in response to a question asking about what he is doing with the E-Cat SKL in the present time, and whether the coronavirus situation has caused delays.

Andrea Rossi
November 30, 2020 at 4:44 AM
Robert:
The Covid has caused delays, but not in the measure necessary to create relevant damages.
Preesently I am working in remote with all the Team and I work in a laboratory testing the Ecat to consolidate the reliability of the device.
I dare to define the progress excellent, both under the experimental point of view and under the theoretical point of view.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Excellent is not a normal adjective that Rossi uses when asked about how his work is going. Typically he emphasizes the need to work hard and work through problems, etc. Maybe this is why he was prompted to make a promise that the presentation would be held in 2021.

Regarding the presentation, I recently asked whether it has been decided yet what will be shown when the presentation is held. He replied, “moreless yes”.

Rossi Promises E-Cat SKL Presentation in 2021

Here’s a Q&A from the Journal of Physics yesterday that show a slight change in tone from Andrea Rossi

Mason
November 26, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Dear Andrea,

a Happy Thanksgiving to you, your wife, Team Rossi, and all the partners in this fantastic journey.

It is certainly hoped that your recent sharing about “we are preparing something important” goes well as a symbol for the coming new year. Is the assessment of this important thing occurring relatively soon?

Sincerely & Respectfully,
Mason

Andrea Rossi
November 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM
Mason:
Thank you for your kind wishes, that I am delighted to return.
Answer: surely within the next year.
This is a promise.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

It’s kind of unusual for Andrea Rossi to make a promise about an event connected with the E-Cat. He often expresses his hopes and predictions about in ways that give him some wiggle room, and we have often seen postponements over the years of predicted events.

Of course next year is a long time, and we be waiting until a year from now and beyond for the fulfillment of this promise. But I think he must have an added level of confidence about the E-Cat SKL in order to make such a statement.

In another comment today, Rossi responded to a question from Nils Friklund if the delay in the presentation was due to a client’s wishes, or the pandemic. Rossi replied:

Andrea Rossi
November 27, 2020 at 5:45 AM
Nils Fryklund:
No, the culprit is all of the Ecat SKL. I am thinking to file a suit against her for “obstruction of perfection”.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

I suppose this means that he will only present a product that he considers perfect.

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Rossi: “We Are Preparing Something Really Important”

I think most readers here are wondering what is going on now in Andrea Rossi’s lab. We have been told by him that there will not be a presentation this year, but possibly in the first quarter of 2021. The only vague details he has provided is that they are working on issues of reliability. Gerard McEk brought up this subject with a question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:

Gerard McEk
November 22, 2020 at 10:24 AM
Dear Andrea,
A few weeks ago you said you possibly have a solution to make the Ecat more reliable.
Have you made any progress in the reliability or are you still working on that?
Thanks, kind regards, Gerard

Andrea Rossi
November 22, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Gerard McEk:
The work is in progress, and day by day we are eliminating the weak points.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

I was curious about the difficulty of the work they are involved in is, so I followed up:

Frank Acland
November 22, 2020 at 3:26 PM
Dear Andrea,

Glad to hear you are making progress. How difficult are the problems you have to deal with?

Andrea Rossi
November 22, 2020 at 4:18 PM
Frank Acland:
I do not see problems we cannot resolve. We are preparing something really important. The work is hard, the important is to stay calm.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

And in response to a question from Xavier Pitz about what level the E-Cat has reached on a scale of “too easy” to “insane”, one year after announcing it, Rossi replied, “The answer is: “insane”. And extremely expensive.”

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Report of a Skype Demonstration of the E-Cat SKL

In June of this year I was able to witness a demonstration of an early version of the E-Cat SKL by Andrea Rossi via Skype. The demonstration was covered by an NDA, so I had not mentioned it to anyone at the time it happened, but I have asked Dr. Rossi if he would now permit me to share with readers what I saw, and he said it was fine to do so, so long as I did not share any photos. I did not take any photos or videos of the demonstration, so that was no problem for me to agree to.

Dr. Rossi told me that he will not comment in any way on these notes because he will not give away any information about the E-Cat SKL before its presentation. So he will not answer any question related to these notes either here, or on his Journal of Nuclear Physics site.

Please note that the following description is based on my memory and notes that I took during the demonstration. It should not by any means be considered to be a scientific paper, it is simply an account of what I was shown.

The Skype call did not take very long, lasting approximately 15 minutes.

Dr. Rossi explained to me that the unit he was showing me was not a closed loop system; the electrical input was coming from the mains.

To measure the energy going into the system there was a Wattmeter (Perel E305EM5G) plugged into a 220 V 50 Hz. wall outlet.

A 12 V (XD-360-12) power supply was used, which was connected to the E-Cat control system measuring 10 x 10 x 1 cm. (AR provided measurements) This was connected to what he explained were two E-Cat SKLs of identical size, both of which were placed inside a passive heat sink which measured 20 x 20 x 20 cm (AR provided measurements). The heat sink looked like a large version of those heat sinks you find inside a computer for cooling computer chips.

During the time the E-Cat was turned on, there was a bright light coming from inside the heat sink, visible through an opening in the top.

To calculate the current produced by the E-Cat SKL there was an Ammeter (PEAKTECH 3430) with one probe connected with one leg of the load and one probe connected to one pole of the E-Cat,
while the E-Cat had the other pole connected to the other leg of the load.

The load was made with a 1kOhm/1000W resistor (Mouser- Product Number TE1000B1K0J) with one terminal connected to the Ammeter and one terminal connected to the other pole of the Ecat

Dr. Rossi turned on the E-Cat and took the measurements during the demonstration, showing me the meter readings via the camera on his phone.

The reading from the Watt meter plugged in to the wall was 115 Watts.

The power supply was rated at 12 Volts supplied to the control system of the E-Cat SKL.

The Ammeter reading was 0.92 Amps.

The resistance of the load was 1000 Ohms.

To calculate the electrical power we used Ohm’s law equation:

I^2 x R = 0.92^2 x 1000 = 846.4 Watts

Dr. Rossi stated that the E-Cats were also producing heat in addition to the electricity that was measured, but heat was not measured in this demonstration. He told me the estimated combined heat output from the E-Cats was approximately 1 kW.

That’s the report of essentially all that I witnessed. Now to my personal impressions.

I have to say that while it all seemed quite ordinary – normal instruments taking normal measurements of electricity –  yet at the same time I realized that I was seeing something that was quite extraordinary. Electricity was somehow being multiplied in an unknown way.

The implications to me are staggering. The demonstration I witnessed did not show a system in a closed loop, but it is obvious that there was enough electricity being produced by the E-Cat to close the loop, in other words provide enough surplus electricity to feed some of it back into the E-Cat’s control system to generate electricity. No coal mining, oil pumping, gas drilling, radioactive fuel, wind turbines, solar panels involved. The E-Cat fuel is measured in grams, not gallons or barrels, and reportedly can power an E-Cat for months if not years on end, without requiring a recharge. I feel like the E-Cat presents a tremendous opportunity for the human race to make progress in many areas of life, and I look forward to seeing how this ongoing story unfolds.

Frank Acland
Publisher, E-Cat World

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Rossi: E-Cat Has Been Licensed for Manufacturing

Here’s a little bit of information that might give us an idea of what Andrea Rossi/Leonardo Corporation’s business plan might be in terms of commercializing the E-Cat.

Sture Andreasson
October 31, 2020 at 4:13 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi,

Have any of your partners been licensed to manufacture e-cat in their factory for use in their own products?

Andrea Rossi
October 31, 2020 at 5:52 AM
Sture Andreasson:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Andrea Rossi has commented in the past that he would like to see broad worldwide dissemination of the E-Cat. I asked him last month if he would be planning to have an exclusive deal with some company. He replied:

Andrea Rossi
September 28, 2020 at 3:53 PM
Frank Acland:
I am looking for multiple agreements. A big global family.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

So perhaps he has now made the first licensing deal, and more are to follow. If the E-Cat SKL is all it is claimed to be I would imagine that many manufacturers would be interested in incorporating the E-Cat into their products.

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