Industrial Heat And Due Dilligence

Venture Capitalists tell us that they invest in the people involved in a project and not just the project itself. They might combine  hard-nosed analysis with passion for an idea but most of us assume that they will always default to the bottom line before anything else. This is why I find the IH development interesting. It seems inconceivable that anyone coming from a VC background would not perform rigorous due diligence on something like the eCat. Could they really let their passion overrule caution?

I hope it is not the case. I do hope the company brought in independent and qualified personnel to test the eCat beyond Rossi’s control. Any observation regarding IH’s lack of expertise is neither here nor there. It would be trivial – considering the money involved – to hire the right people and with luck they did exactly that. Perhaps our hoped-for independents built the device on behalf of IH (as far as Rossi is concerned his partner built it). Perhaps this is why they do not have any problems with him making such statements on his blog. They have had the best part of nine months after all. If all of this is true and then they still decided to issue the press release, that is quite a strong statement.

Of course we can always turn the equation on its head. If we were to invest in IH, due diligence would force us to look at those involved. As far as I can tell these are good people – exactly the type I admire for their efforts to make a difference. It sometimes feels like we are stuck in a pit surrounded by money-men with no concern for others. But could it go too far the other way? Looking at JT Vaughn’s blog, I fear for the sequence of events that led them to invest. I pray (metaphorically) that the attitude expressed there was not dominant when negotiating with Rossi. Thank goodness people like Vaughn exist but in this case if he relied more on faith than science, I would urge them to think again. Could this be why Rossi keeps using the phrase “whether the results are positive or negative” in reference to current and future tests?

I hope my fear is unfounded but if not and Rossi is ever put on trial, he has prepared an interesting defence for himself. He has Nobel laureates as unwitting exhibits, scientists to the left and right who all agreed with him. He even let experts test it for themselves and cautioned that the results could be negative – he can also afford a good lawyer.

I am rooting for IH but would not invest in the eCat without substantially more proof. I hope they have that proof and make lots of money from making the world a better place. I may not be religious or share their  faith but for once I would like the good-guys to win.

 

Hydrofusion Sells eCat Juice?

On Andrea Rossi’s blog today, the inventor implied that Hydro Fusion (the Swedish licensee) has found a company to act as a showcase for the 1MW eCat and that it is one he approves of. While I do not pretend to understand why this is needed, I do find the development interesting. There have been too many disappointments in the past but I have no reason to suspect Hydro Fusion of being anything but legitimate and if the sale goes through, it may shine a much-needed light on what is going on. Something must change if the credibility logjam is to be broken.

 

Gian Luca

Dear A.R. is it possible that the same choice made in sweden can be replicated in Italy by Prometeon? It would be a great & good chance, for the italian industry, to know LENR and your tecnology for a great future!

best regards

Gian Luca

>Andrea Rossi

Gian Luca:

The Swedish formula depends on the Licensees, not from us. Leonardo Corp sells the 1 MW plants, and the owners of the plants can use them the way they prefer: if they want to invest in a plant to sell energy, they can do it. We just make a due dioligence on the final Customer who buys the energy, before accepting the solution. Our Swedish licensee has proposed to us a Customer we like, therefore they are free to buy a plant to put it in the concern of their Customer and sell the energy. We gave them green light, but this is an initiative of theirs, not of ours.

Warm Regards,

A.R

 

Donning a positive cap and taking a giant leap by assuming the eCat is real, it is fun to consider what company or organisation might fit the bill. Given their obvious interest, available funds and their positive comments regarding the HotCat tests, the R&D consortium of Elforsk would be the perfect candidate. If Hydro Fusion pulls of such a feat with them (or a similarly credible) body, I for one will applaud and immediately reassess my position. In that spirit: Good luck, Hydro Fusion.

 

[With thanks to  Deleo77 in eCatNews comments]

A Murderous Fraud

A few days before the HotCat test was published, British businessman, Jim McCormick, was sentenced to 10 yrs for fraud. As I urge you to watch the following BBC clip, I also urge you to stop yourself jumping to conclusions. The purpose of placing this here is not to attach McCormick’s guilt to Rossi but to counter the tendency we have to fall to simplistic views of what is likely and what not.

Too often, I have found myself thinking that there are too many people involved with the eCat for it to be a scam. Too often, I lapse to the lazy idea that pictures Rossi as a man suffering unjust criticism. Surely the scale of this thing is beyond any charge of deception? If this is a scam, it must be the biggest ever perpetrated. None of that is true.

Before I continue, please be aware that I genuinely do not know what is going on. Unlike many sceptics, I found enough meat in the recent report to question my worry that this is all BS. Indeed, I was dismayed to read so many intelligent people give such a poor account of their objections as to bury useful comment among the crap. I truly hope that the eCat is about to change the world and that I will be able to say my worries were misplaced. I look forward to doing that someday but until then, I cannot balance the countless warning signs by making assumptions based on thinking there are too many people involved or that the fraud has to eventually be uncovered someday so, who would do such a thing?

It is not enough to believe that the signals do not make sense. In something like this, we simply need to see the device work repeatedly and divorced from Andrea Rossi’s influence before we can know for sure. We need to stop making decisions based on emotions and start using our heads.

When we do, the argument for and against eCat’s reality goes something like this:

  • If Rossi’s claims are true, they will change the world
  • He is selling licences
  • He has performed a number of interesting demonstrations that have persuaded some clever people and not others
  • The HotCat test results are compelling. If they are not fraudulent, most other concerns are redundant

The following beggars belief but there are others I could have used as examples. Selling primarily to security forces and police, McCormick’s device was used in over 30 countries and was likely responsible for many deaths. A scientific nonsense, he used BS and bribes to sell thousands to the Iraqi forces. The scam went on for over ten years and even when it was uncovered, the British police initially took no action. When they did, the International nature and the fact that his ‘detector’ was used in over 30 countries, meant that getting a guilty verdict was not as simple as you might think. All of this despite the fact that he bought a plastic gimmick that sells in the US for around $20, rebadged it and sold it for between $2,000 and $40,000 each.

One of my worst fears is to accuse an innocent man and so I repeat that I have no idea if the eCat is real or not. Before the HotCat report, my bet was on the negative. However, after years of following Rossi’s antics, I have to admit to being surprised by recent developments and will once more give the subject a cautious watch. In my opinion, the report can be considered credible evidence that falls short of proof. Given the enormity of the claims, the commercial potential and history of failed promises, we need to kill the notion that this would be the biggest scam ever (and therefore can’t be) as much as we fight against unjustified criticism of the report (there are some valid ones).

I hope that all those who are signatories to the paper were truly involved to a depth that gives credit to the weight their good names lends to it. To me, it is their association that leads to hope - that this time the world has beaten the odds through the genius of Andrea Rossi. Until we know for sure, remember that Jim McCormick is only one of countless such men. We are easier to fool than we think.

More Meta Data On HotCat Test

The following is a rough translation from Google of what appears to be a presentation published as a pdf at Borderlands.de. Borderlands seems to report on fringe science and the Swiss company Transaltec AG – an eCat licensee is among the links on their homepage. The pdf is here and includes some familiar images. I put this here for your info before studying it myself. It’s late!

 

“Peer reviewed Tests” the E-Cat technology of Ing A. Rossi and LENR: International energy markets feared earthquake-like shifts

On 14 Th December 2012 visit to the editors, managing director of TransAltec AG (Swiss distribution license holder of the E-Cat technology), the new large labora-tory of the Leonardo Corporation in Ferrara. There they were there, the measurements shown are from four inde-pendent professors evaluated the results of the international energy market far more dread than Andrea Rossi, as the following report shows.

Do not fear the measuring resultaten! The visit, the results and objectives can not be publizert, was held together with Swiss and German business partners TransAltec AG. Andrea Rossi showed all participants, inter alia, a measurement setup from the Hot-E-Cat (500 degrees). These measurements are “peer reviewed” analyzes of four independent professors. After measurements were carried out for seven days, according to A. Rossi, would the measurement setup the next day – ie on 15 December – down and the measurements evaluated. He did not fear the results, he said, but the editors: “I’m the measurement results in each case publish whatever they may be, too!”

However, he informed the editors neither who the measurements where the still-led evaluation yet when and where they will take place det published. The reason is simple: he does not know it ourselves! Let the experts take care (which he has entrusted himself), which perform the measurements, credibility and confidentiality until the end. But one thing is certain: Andrea Rossi himself has done for months or years of measurements, before he was ready to independent mea-surements It must therefore be assumed that the measurements confirm his own results!

As is known, it is the E-Cat technology is a nickel-hydrogen reaction in which hydrogen by ionization in the metal lattice of the nickel crystals difun-dated and in different Folgepro processes via nuclear excitation or transmutation of energy into thermal radiation is converted. This means that with this method, without fuel, with little (recyclable clierbarem) nickel and hydrogen and sixth electrical power supply – that is, with a COP of 6:1! – A 1 MW plant (10 kW heating systems and later) are operated.

Visit to a reference system only after the signing of a LOI! Several 1-MW turbines were sold in November 2011 and are in operation in the United States. From the end of February / beginning of March is a 1-M plant visits are the can in Italy with an Italian energy company. At the meeting of 14 Andrea Rossi December 2012 made it clear that he wants to make sure position-ing that no inquisitive access the service. The condition for a tour of a plant ge is therefore only possible if inter-ested previously signed a Letter of Intent LOI, which they obliged to buy a plant, once they have seen on the spot that the reference system works and they could speak with the operator of the 1 MW plant.

The organization of the tour runs through the instruction of the respective licensees Sales-sorganisationen: in Germany, it is the E-Cat-Germany GmbH under the leadership of CEO Hartmut Dobler, in Switzerland it is the company TransAltec AG under the leadership of Adolf and Inge Schneider. For this purpose also see the presentation of the E-Cat technology in the Congress “Technologies for Energy Transition” of 11-12. May 2013 in Königstein (page 18). In Switzerland, will take place on 22.2. the next E-Cat meeting place for partners, in Germany already run training courses for distributors and sublicensees. For more information on the websites 1.2

The energy industry fears earth-shaking turmoil! While engineer Andrea Rossi feels relatively sure of the results of independent measurements, fears have already used other around. Several insider websites such as Feng Shui News Blog reports circulated by which major oil companies such as BP, Shell, Exxon and others have begun their investments in oil fields around the world to sell. The backgrounds would serve that the E-Cat & LENR-technologies would provide plenty of swirls behind the scenes.

Thus, these circles would with voltage for February announced the review for the latest E-Cat development, the so-called “Hot Cat” expect. We hear what the editors from our own experience of already know:

“An independent science team also de-December 2012 has tested the LENR reactor of the Italian inventor Andrea Rossi and pre-sented in brief the results in a scientific journal (peer reviewed) of the world public. Will this finally release the long awaited ‘LENR hype’ in the mainstream media? ”

Would for some industries, so here is everything at stake: First of all, it is about nothing less than the promise of a- ner inexhaustible energy source that will provide future every human on earth, and perhaps far beyond our planet with clean energy rer. No oil, no coal, no “nuclear power” would the more needed for energy, and wind power and solar energy would disappear from the screen surface. Why? Because on “Low Energy Nuclear Reac-tions” (LENR) energy gained hardly consumes resources and therefore costs almost nothing.

But it really depends on the pre-vious lack of independent testing by A. Rossi, that LENR research and the development of relevant applications in the public consciousness so far only permanent Schattenda is-a? Certainly not. Rather it is the societal conditions and grown over the years, closely intertwined with each other economic, political and media structures that hold the interest of “Cold Fusion” for years small or scientists to ridicule award-tion, although in hundreds was already shown by laboratories around the world that LENR works.

Already last year, the MIT, one of the world’s most renowned scientific institutes, LENR-tested a small reactor with the name “Nanor” the size of a Tupperware publicly. Admittedly, the amount of energy generated Ing Andrea Rossi (left) is (besides Prof. Sergio Focardi) although with his E-Cat technology-the most successful, but by no means the only protagonist of cold fusion and LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). January / February 2013 NET-Journal Vol 18, Issue 1/2 15 was small with about 78 milliwatts. However, the fact that the reactor for months generated 12 times more energy than was plugged back into it, provide long for worldwide headlines in popular scientific magazines. But nothing has happened.

Even Toyota, Mitsubishi, StMI-croelectronics, Amaco, the U.S. Navy and NASA have not played now officially confirmed that they are off on LENR topic and have achieved in their own laboratory investigations promising results. You ask yourself seriously: If all this does not reason enough to get together physicists worldwide to finally understand the LENR phenomenon and to make available to mankind, as billions more to Forschungsgel countries in projects of “hot fusion” to sink?

As for the persuasiveness of “scientific arguments”, Max Planck, one of the fathers of quantum theory, once gbeschrieben very aptly: “A new scientific truth does not enforce in such a way that their opponents are convinced and agree as instructed, but much-more by the fact that their opponents die out gradually and that the growing generation is familiarized with the truth from the beginning. “Even if the scientists themselves in self-defense hard to do with the acceptance of technologies such as e-Cat devices so but can the international press, such a development no longer ignore, because not scientists, but “ordinary people” are the main part of their readers – and is already too big of Rossi hype.

Turbulence in gear! If you are thinking that the expected review will immediately lead to turbulence in the international energy markets, has obviously followed the financial news of recent weeks not particularly attentive. For this turbulence is already well under way! First oil companies have understood it. It says “oil-producing tower burning – E-Cat & LENR responsible for earthquake-like shifts in the international energy markets?”

Or: “Burning oil förderturm: symbol for the beginning of the decline,” It is as mentioned a fact that the big oil companies such as BP, Shell, Exxon and others have begun their oil fields for sale around the world (s . news.cnet.com). Petrobras has spent a decade so that, majority stakes in a large-Texas oil refinery need to acquire. Now they are desperately like to get rid of it and take even large discounts in buying

Nuclear power plants and Ölmul-ti at the end? Nuclear power plant owners in the U.S. cancel their investment projects and are preparing their equipment to progressively close out. All these companies give reasons, which seem plausible in itself, but in this global massiveness allow connection to only one conclusion: We are in the midst of dictation th through free energy technologies, energy revolution! Who does not believe, here are more examples of the “diversification and divestment strategies” of the oil companies who have a different background:

BP:   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business- 20527045 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle. do?categoryId=2012968&contentId =7081129 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do? categoryId=2012968&contentId= 7080956 http://indrus.in/articles/2012/11/29/ rosneft_and_bp_to_develop_new _arctic_oil_fields_19411.html

Shell http://www.hydrocarbons-technology. com/news/newsshell-divests-stake- nigerian-oil-asset

Exxon http://www.fool.com/investing/general/ 2013/01/13/exxon-and-the-world- of-foreign-oil.aspx http://www.newsystocks.com/News/41 08444/Weak-Demand-Outlook- Forces-Exxon-Mobil%E2%80% 93XOM%E2%80%93to-Sell-Its- Japanese-Unit http://www.reuters.com/article/ 2012/ 11/07/us-iraq-exxon-idUSBRE 8A60Y420121107

While the general public of the true background of the shifts in the international energy markets practically knows nothing, many scientists stuck still their head in the sand, maintain their dogmas and let the representatives of politics and media, their themes dictated by the economic , there are a growing number of people, their hope of a better and fairer world to the breakthrough free energy technologies – not to mention the e-Cat technology! – Socialize. This breakthrough is unstoppable, as well as a many-explicit contributions in this book show!

Sources: www.everyday-feng-shui.de http://www.lenrproof.com/ http://world.std.com/~mica/nanor- technology.htm

Websites www.ecatschweiz.com www.e-cat-deutschland.de

Dr. Peter Hagelstein,

 

[With thanks to Claudio C Fiorini on Vortex]

HotCat Report – Thoughts And Criticism

With a day to consider yesterday’s HotCat report, the following is an update on my thoughts:

There are too many unknowns to be answered but the initial positive impression has survived a close reading of the paper. In purely scientific terms, people are right to be cautious and question the extent of its independence. This can be done without accusation. I await the assault that usually follows such tests but, by the relative silence so far, my guess is that specific debunking is taking more work than usual. Where this is in evidence, the reaction appears to be hurried and flawed.

An example of this follows cautiously positive comments from particle physicist, Tommasco Dorigo at Science 2.0. Currently working at CERN, Dorigo says he still opts for the eCat being a scam. However, he also admits to being impressed by the results and will follow the developing story with more interest.

To some, anything but absolute condemnation is confirmation that you are an idiot.

Luboš Motl, a Czech physicist, castigates Dorigo and tears apart the report. I have no problem with this. Such is the stuff of science and Motl might end up being substantially correct. However, it does appear to me that he has only skimmed the paper he accuses of sloppiness. Commenting on the use of unity as an approximation for the emissivity of the device, he points out that, rather than underestimating the final result, it overestimates it and on its own could account for much of the claimed excess power. However, the paper clearly states that in the December test, the approximation was plugged into the IR software to calculate the temperature from the measured colour map and that temperature was then used in the radiated power calculation. I am no expert and am ready to be proven wrong by someone who is, but it appears to me that since the emissivity would be used again in the actual  Stefan-Boltzmann formula, the net effect is minimal. Indeed, this is confirmed in the March test by using white dots of known emissivity supplied by the IR camera manufacturer.

My point here is not to slap Motl down but to demonstrate the tendency of smart people to read what they expect to find (this works both ways). I look forward to honest comment from scientists such as these and wish we would dump the habit of assuming someone an idiot because they are willing to admit a cautionary interest in wtf is going on.

With that in mind, I am encouraged by this paper and hope the coming analysis from mainstream scientists will be constructive even if it is critical . We are a long way from scientific proof but in business terms, I would not be surprised if this makes a few potential investors wonder if they should chuck some pin-money on the fire.

I’m not ready to abandon caution – I cannot dismiss the obvious lies and obfuscation surrounding this subject over the past two years and don’t think others should assume we have The Holy Grail. However, the report has definitely made me pause. I hope others do too. It is entirely possible to do so without switching off our brains and believing everything we are told.

 

[With thanks to Akira Shirakawa on Vortex]

That Was eCatNews

WordPress is trying to tell us something. Its increasing reluctance to post comments breaching the thousand-mark is preparing us for the inevitable.

My interest in the eCat and its progeny lay in its promise for the future. Now that I doubt Rossi’s claims to the point of near certainty, the subject does not deserve the work involved in keeping this blog alive. At one point in sight of a million visits a month, it is easy to see how money can be made from the dreams and wishes of good people. I now fear that underlying the smiles of a few key players, a dark heart beats and I refuse to follow popularity at the expense of truth. A key driver in my decision to start eCatNews lies at the feet of hard sceptics. Something did not fit. Surely if their conviction was genuine, they would not waste their lives working on a propaganda campaign trying to convince us all that Rossi was a fraud. It did not make sense. Rather than convince me of their point, their hard work and dedication looked suspicious. I wanted to shine a light into the darkest corners in the hope that we’d find something wondrous. That was not to be. I may be puzzled by such a negative pursuit but no longer conclude anything from it. Now, with scant hope of Rossi delivering on his promises, I find myself wondering why I would waste any more time on him. If he is committing fraud, he should be pursued by the police. Interest in the man or the subject is now relegated to the level of curiosity, not dedication.

Many people have asked me to switch my focus to the wider subject of LENR. Forced to share an arena with sharks and shysters, real scientists in this field are assaulted from all directions. Ordinary people, investors and politicians struggle to know who to believe or fall to the trap of believing anything that conforms to the world as they think it truly is. For what it’s worth, I think there is a place for a site independent of any particular faction and run on the basis of constructive scepticism. This is how science works. The core mission of such a site would be to lend credibility where it is due and highlight genuine and well-meaning criticism that might shape future experiments. Constructive criticism should not be confused with negativity. It is far harder to question a particular result in a helpful way than to echo whatever we are told. With that in mind, I have given serious thought to shifting my focus to www.lenr-news.com. However, by letting the conversation run without interference here, I can see that such an approach would not work. To be constructive and make a difference, I would have to police comments and take an assertive investigative stance. In other words, to make it work, the enterprise would become a major focus in my life and need funds. I am reluctant to do such a thing without help and have to balance that effort with other priorities.

While I have a keen interest in science and technology and truly believe that we will discover a way to tap clean and plentiful energy from the universe, I am also interested in the culture of trust and collaboration. The example of the MFMP is a shining beacon in the field of cold fusion and plaudits must go to Celani and others who are similarly open with their results. We see the power of such openness throughout the Net in the various open-source communities and in the actions of millions of carers around the world. Taking what I have learned here and through the Honesty Project, I want to explore ways of magnifying the efforts of millions of people working together in the spirit of enlightened self-interest – not just in a scientific endeavour but in an economic fight against austerity. The potential of such selfish collaboration is as powerful as any physical force we might seek to tap. This is not the forum to discuss that project but if anyone is interested in joining the discussion, email me at myfirstname at ecatnews.com.

For the above reasons and others, I will happily set up www.lenr-news.com if a small group steps forward to run it. Failing that, this is likely my last post open to comments. Unless events make a u-turn necessary, WordPress will decide when this ends. In that case, and in time, I will post a final word which will stand as a warning to anyone researching the term “eCat News”. Thank you for giving me your time. No matter what happens, I will continue to monitor the space. If anything changes or something happens that I feel you should know about, I will post it to the newsletter.

 

Paul

Rossi Gives His Side Of HotCat Friendly Fire

Andrea Rossi says:

DEAR READERS:
TODAY A BIG MESS IS POPPED OUT FROM A SHORT MEASUREMENT THAT HAS BEEN DONE THE LAST WEEK. I REALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PERSONS HAVE TOTALLY IGNORED WHAT I CLEARLY SAID IN MY PRELIMINAR STATEMENT IN THE REPORT PRESENTED IN ZURICH: I SAID THAT ALL THE DATA ARE NOT FINAL, THE VALIDATION, THE R&D, THE CERTIFICATION OF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE REACTOR ARE IN COURSE AND THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE RELEASED WITHIN MONTHS. NOW, A GUY COMES HERE (INVITED FROM US) MAKES SOME HOUR OF MEASUREMENT, GOES AWAY AND A WEEK AFTER MAKES A PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE HE HAS MADE A PROCESS OF VALIDATION THAT TAKES MONTHES: DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE? I AM VERY CONFUSED. ANYWAY:
THE EXTERNAL SURFACE OF OUR REACTOR IS 933 CM^2
THE TEMPERATURE WE REACH WHEN IT IS STABLE IS 1050 CELSIUS ON THE EXTERNAL SURFACE. THE GUY IS ESCAPED FROM US BEFORE THE REACTOR REACHED THE DUE TEMPERATURE SAYING HE HAD SEEN ENOUGH ( ENOUGH OF WHAT?).
THE MAX POWER OF THE RESISTANCE IS 8 kW
WITH THESE NUMBERS ONLY, THE ENERGY PRODUCED IS ABOUT 17 kWH/H, WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE ENERGY FROM THE INTERNAL CYLINDER (WHATEVER IT IS), THE CONVECTION ENERGY ( WHICH IS A LOT).
NOW: IN THE NEXT 2 MONTHS WE HAVE TO ARRIVE TO A PRECISE DETERMINATION OF THE MAXIMUM COP, BUT JUST FROM THESE VERY BASIC ANC CONSTANT NUMBERS ( INDIPENDENT FROM THE MEASUREMENTS OF AMPS AND OHMS) WE HAVE A COP AROUND 2.
THE ITER PROGRAM, TO MAKE ENERGY WITH NUCLEAR HOT FUSION, IS COSTED 100 BILLION OF EUROS AND GOT NOT EVEN 1.01 OF COP.
SO, WHAT ?
IN THE FINAL REPORT YOU WILL SEE A LIST OF MANY PROFESSORS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY MEASUREMENTS FOR MONTHS.
LET ME WORK, AND LET THE TEAM OF PROFESSORS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE MAKING THE VALIDATION ANDE CERTIFICATION WORK. THIS TIME, ANYWAY, WE GOT FRIENDLY FIRE, IT APPEARS.
ANDREA ROSSI

[With thanks to Francesco CH]

John Hadjichristos – Defkalion’s CTO Interviewed

Peter Gluck details a new interview with Defkalion GT’s CTO, John Hadjichristos on his blog, here.

While he offers nothing to demonstrate they have anything of substance, there are a number of interesting additions to the story they tell. When asked about the company history, JH tells us that Rossi’s deal with Ampenergo was problematic in that it interfered with their rights to Canada. As an aside, he also says that the Ampenergo deal collapsed later, too. It is certainly curious to see no movement from that quarter (not even a site update) for months.

I treat anything the company says with caution until they do what they said they would do but there is enough story-telling meat in this interview that those looking for meta-data might find it interesting. If we ever get lucky in finding that the company has more than words to offer, this new ‘information’ could turn out useful.

There is more on Peter’s blog; Ego Out

In the mean time, Rossi signed a contract with Ampenergo that was in conflict with our contract. Ampenergo would act like us in US, but due to their contract with Rossi, for the whole American continent exclusively. Ampenergo published their relationship with Rossi on 25 of June 2011, that created us a huge problem: our Greek-Canadian share holders were basing their investment on our company under the hypothesis that we could distribute products to Canada also….

And on the discovery process:

What most people do not know is that we got very big help from what had been published already in CF/LENR literature. Most of the scientific announcements, including those of Rossi made in public, indicated us WHAT NOT TO TRY. On the other hand, a lot of positive indications and useful scientific knowledge related,  had already been published in public domain from other fields such as plasma physics, astrophysics, chemistry, metallurgy, volcanism, new material science, nanotechnology etc.

And on the tech:

Very quickly we realized that the “thermal method”, as well all the “gas loading methods” were not giving us the expected results that could lead to an industrial prototype due to their very slow feedback. We designed then our R4 lab reactor where a more aggressive triggering method (plasma ignition or ion-bombardment as some people call it) was introduced.

 

 

 

University of Bologna – No Formal eCat Relationship

Two weeks ago, Andrea Rossi performed a Defkalion – painting himself into a corner so that we might believe a resolution to the eCat saga was in sight. Referring to  claimed successful tests on the hotcat, he told us on 11 August that they (the tests) would “… BE REPEATED OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE HALF OF OCTOBER 2012…” by the University of Bologna.

 

  • Andrea Rossi

    INFORMATION:
    AFTER THE LEAKAGE MADE BY AN INSIDER WITH THE THE NICKNAME “CURES” REGARDING THE TESTS COMPLETED ON JULY 16TH, WHICH HAD TO REMAIN UNDER NDA, I HAVE TO INFORM THAT:
    THE TEST MADE ON JULY 16TH WILL BE REPEATED OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE HALF OF OCTOBER 2012 BY THE UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA AND THE RESULTS WILL BE PUBLISHED BY THE SAME UNIVERSITY.
    ANDREA ROSSI

This appears to have been reaffirmed two days ago:

    • Alessandro Stupa

      Dear Mr Rossi, is it true that in these days your E-cat is tested by an important university ?
      You gave them the 10 kw e-cat or the Hot-cat for their test ?
      They will publish their results to public ?
      Mr.Focardi works with them ?

      Thank You, I hope great success !

    • Andrea Rossi
      August 25th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
      Dear Alessandro Stupa:
      1- Yes
      2- Both
      3- Yes
      4- No, because he is not third party.
      Warm Regards,
      A.R.

There is some wriggle room in his latest statement  as he does not specify the university. However there is an implicit suggestion here when we note his reason for Professor Focardi not being involved. When he says, “No, because he is not third party.” I think he means that Focardi is not independent and so we might conclude Bologna as the establishment he is talking about. Even if that conclusion is wrong, the statement of the 11th leaves no room for doubt that he is saying that there will be an official test at UniBo followed by the release of the results.

Today, the University Magazine posted the following, reiterating a statement they made after AR made similar claims last year:

E-cat: there are measures in place

August 27, 2012

Statement by the Vice Rector for Research Dario Braga and the Director of the Department of Physics Paul Capiluppi

Following the statements appeared in some media about an upcoming release from the University of Bologna results of measurements made on the device called “E-cat” Mr. Andrea Rossi, the Vice-Chancellor for research, Professor Dario Braga, and the Director of the Department of Physics, Professor Paul Capiluppi, reiterated to the press as early as January 2012, and that is that there is no formal relationship between the University of Bologna and the EFA srl and that there is no measure in place or there are in the equipment program called “E-cat” Mr. Andrea Rossi at the University of Bologna.

The University of Bologna insists, however, the full readiness to make available its expertise and equipment to make measurements on the production of heat from the equipment to the condition that the results are public and disclosed.

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E-cat: Statement by the Department of Physics

This is a little confusing as it appears to mirror the statement they made before. Is the magazine regurgitating that release or is Dario Braga telling us (in a new release) that nothing has changed and there is still no official arrangement (yet)? Perhaps it is a warning shot to guide current negotiations or perhaps it is a denial designed to distance themselves from Rossi’s claim. The last time this played, Rossi strung the story out by telling us that the (then) contract would be signed and money committed soon. (At the time, there was a 500,000 Euro fee for the private research Rossi had tasked them with. As far as I know, no such financial arrangement is being claimed now).

June 22, 2011… From Andrea Rossi”s Blog…

Jon Soderberg
June 21st, 2011 at 10:58 PM
Dear Mr Rossi
I have a question or 2 regarding the implementation of an ecat in a space heating application. The current design of your ecat seen in videos has you pumping a volume of water through a chamber resulting in dry steam. Would it be feasible to submerge an ecat chamber into a large tank of water for hydronic floor heating? Would it be possible to create a radiant heater using fins attached to an ecat chamber? Would it be simple or difficult to retrofit existing heat systems? Would it be feasible to embed an ecat into a large mass such as stone or concrete and run the ecat like a wood stove?
Thank you.
Jon Soderberg

Andrea Rossi
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:26 AM
Dear Jon Soderberg:
Yes, all of this is possible.
I think that something like this will be made in the R&D work of the University of Bologna (by the way: yesterday the research contract with the University of Bologna has been signed.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

A few weeks later, he told us that eCats had been delivered to the University:

Piers D
September 9th, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Dear Mr Rossi,

I would like to congratulate all your team who have worked on bringing cold
fusion from the lab to industrial and commercial reality. It seems so many
years ago that Fleishman and Pons first introduced the concept to the wider
global audience.  I have two questions
that you might wish to answer:

 • Have fully working E-Cats been
provided to the Bologna and Uppsala Universities for research and testing?

 • Do you have any prospective European
or Asian partners that will license the E-Cat technology for commercial
production?

 Yours sincerely

Piers Dickinson

Andrea Rossi
September 9th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Dear Piers D:

 1- yes

 2- yes

 Warm regards,

 A.R.

On January 24th 2012, Steven Krivit told us that no money had been handed over to UniBo and they had subsequently declared the contract void.

The following is from Krivit’s article:

Today, Dario Braga, director of scientific research at the university, told New Energy Times that the university waited long enough. It terminated the contract because Rossi did not fulfill his agreement to make the first progress payment, Braga said.
“The contract ended on January 15 and has been canceled by the university,” Braga said. “Therefore, there is no further relationship between the university and Rossi or his company.”

A concerned Hank Mills penned the following to Rossi:

Dear Andrea Rossi,

It is being reported on the internet that the University of Bologna has terminated the contract with Leonardo Corporation due to non-payment. Sterling Allan has requested that I send you an email to ask you about this issue. My questions are as follows…

1) Is it true that the University of Bologna has terminated the contract with Leonardo Corporation to test the E-Cat technology?

2) If it is true that the contract was terminated, what was your reason for not following through with the contract and making the payment?

3) Some individuals are asserting the speculation that you did not pay the University of Bologna, because your first customer has yet to pay for the first E-Cat plant. Have you received any payment from the first customer (the military entity)?

4) Have you acquired any other source of funding? My thinking is that the reason you did not follow through with the contract is because you are totally focusing on the factory that will produce the home E-Cat units. Even if you had the money to pay the University of Bologna, the money could be better spent on the factory. Although the testing by the University of Bologna would be a very good thing, it is really a side issue. You already know the technology works, and you don’t have to pay $500,000 to find that out. On a totally unrelated issue, you probably know by now that Defkalion has made it known they plan to perform a test of one of their Hyperion units with a “control” unit (no hydrogen), beside the actual unit (with hydrogen) that will produce heat. I am not convinced they have a valid technology to show at all. Even if they do, it could very well be a “copy cat” of your technology. However, I would like to humbly request you consider a test of an E-Cat with a “control” unit. It is the one type of test of the E-Cat that was never performed. Although I know there are some snakes out there that will never be satisfied (because they have agendas),  there are also some *honest* skeptics that are “sitting on the fence” so to speak. I think a control test of an E-Cat would provide absolutely irrefutable evidence of the E-Cat, and would bring many of the “fence sitters” to your side.  I’ve been doing my best to support and defend your work ever since January of 2011. It has not been easy at times, and I’ve faced a lot of criticism. In recent times, your competitors have been harassing me and attacking me. If you could perform such a test with a control, I would consider it a personal favor.

Thank you for all the hard work you are doing.

Sincerely,

Hank Mills

Rossi answered thus:

DEAR HANK:

PLEASE PUBLISH EVERYWHERE YOU CAN: THE STATEMENT OF KRIVIT IS TOTALLY FALSE!!!  ABOUT THE PUBLIC TESTS I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WHEN OUR E-CAT WILL BE IN THE MARKET EVERYBODY WILL MAKE ALL THE TESTS HE WANTS. WARM REGARDS,

ANDREA

But on the 25th January, this was posted on the Italian site of Radio Metropolitana (Via Google Translate):

E-cat: Unibo close the contract, but open to cold fusion research January 25 .- The University of Bologna deemed terminated the contract with the company Smith [Rossi] “EFA Ltd” which included a payment of 500,000 euros for measuring e-cat. The deadline for payment was 15 January 2012, it is not got the funds, the contract was terminated. This is confirmed by our microphones to the Provost Dario Braga responsible for research projects, but added that the Department of Physics, University of Bologna remains available “with its experience and its equipment” to carry out independent measurements on the device called “E- cat . ”

Not a distancing from the research, therefore, the E-cat but a precise duties due to liquidity problems in these times of crisis also involves projects of many other companies: “Once in a recession the first thing you cut is Research and development “- complains Braga – which he does not exclude the possible revival of a payment on the type of protocol that established in June between Rossi and Unibo:” we can not exclude anything, provided of course that there is a solvency by the company. ” listen to the interview Provost Dario Braga: Here is the text of the announcement of the University: “E-CAT: STATEMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS UNIVERSITY ‘OF BOLOGNA Bologna, January 25, 2012 – The Department of Physics, University of Bologna says that the contract signed in June 2011 between the Department of Physics and the EFA Ltd. (the company owned by Italian Andrea Rossi) was terminated because of failure to meet conditions to the terms. There’s no relationship between the Department and the EFA Ltd. in connection with this contract. However, the Department of Physics has made available its experience and its equipment to carry out independent measurements on the production of heat by the equipment and cat-called in order to provide an answer to the entire scientific community and the general public about the phenomenon. The measurement results will be published.

This was then confirmed by the University. On the one hand, it backed Rossi’s assertion that a contract did exist but on the other, it was worthless and remained ineffective due to lack of payment. It was eventually cancelled by UniBo. The whole saga dragged on for months with many (including me) giving him the benefit of constant doubt.

There are more details, including claims that the University of Uppsala were to be paid to conduct research. However, we have enough here to force us to ask ourselves critical questions when the belief gene does its thing. If you find yourself concluding that Rossi would not say the things he is saying now if they did not have substance, reread the above carefully.

As always, I make no judgement and long for the day Rossi proves our worries unfounded. Until that day and unless you have genuine and RELIABLE inside knowledge… beware.

I look forward to the report from UniBo as promised by Rossi. Here it is again:

  • Andrea Rossi

    INFORMATION:
    AFTER THE LEAKAGE MADE BY AN INSIDER WITH THE THE NICKNAME “CURES” REGARDING THE TESTS COMPLETED ON JULY 16TH, WHICH HAD TO REMAIN UNDER NDA, I HAVE TO INFORM THAT:
    THE TEST MADE ON JULY 16TH WILL BE REPEATED OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE HALF OF OCTOBER 2012 BY THE UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA AND THE RESULTS WILL BE PUBLISHED BY THE SAME UNIVERSITY.
    ANDREA ROSSI

And again, here is today’s UniBo’ reply:

August 27, 2012

Statement by the Vice Rector for Research Dario Braga and the Director of the Department of Physics Paul Capiluppi

Following the statements appeared in some media about an upcoming release from the University of Bologna results of measurements made on the device called “E-cat” Mr. Andrea Rossi, the Vice-Chancellor for research, Professor Dario Braga, and the Director of the Department of Physics, Professor Paul Capiluppi, reiterated to the press as early as January 2012, and that is that there is no formal relationship between the University of Bologna and the EFA srl and that there is no measure in place or there are in the equipment program called “E-cat” Mr. Andrea Rossi at the University of Bologna.

The University of Bologna insists, however, the full readiness to make available its expertise and equipment to make measurements on the production of heat from the equipment to the condition that the results are public and disclosed.

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E-cat: Statement by the Department of Physics